#407932 - 01/15/0903:23 PMRe: Gay marriage
[Re: newkojak]
steveg
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Two words, eleven syllables... Dude, bisect the feces, will ya!
Anyway, I just don't get all the wrist-wringing over same-sex marriage. I'm willing to bet that for the majority of couples married for more than two years, it's always the same sex anyway.
#407938 - 01/15/0903:53 PMRe: Gay marriage
[Re: walzuhair]
newkojak
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I hate to tell you that you are being paranoid. The difference between the relationships you are describing is not just a legal one, but a philosophical one.
If you believe that adults can give consent, which is the very basis for why sex with anything else is a crime, then there is a huge canyon between homosexual relationships and everything else that you are talking about. Sex between an adult and a child and an animal is not just horrifying because society has set an arbitrary standard. Society (mostly) has decided that these people cannot possibly give consent, so it's rape plain and simple.
That's not the case between two consenting adults. Where is the moral hazard?
#407941 - 01/15/0904:10 PMRe: Gay marriage
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walzuhair
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A few decades ago, homosexuality was as "horrifying" as adult, child, animal sex.. Now, it's legal.. Why limit the development and progress of society?
Just like how laws were modified to accommodate gay marriages, laws will be modified to accommodate everything else.. We should all be open minded for a better and free tomorrow.
#407945 - 01/15/0904:25 PMRe: Gay marriage
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newkojak
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Why are you ignoring the distinctions just to sarcastically repeat your position? If you think that homosexuality is horrific and should be outlawed, just say it and why instead of insulting everyone that thinks otherwise with the accusation that we would approve of bestiality and pedophilia.
That's a terrible thing to infer about a person, or a society no less.
#407949 - 01/15/0904:59 PMRe: Gay marriage
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walzuhair
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Sarcasm? That wasn't sarcasm, it's a prediction.. You reap what you sow..
As for ignoring the distinction, sorry, I simply don't see any difference.. Don't be angry or upset, others have their rights and views too. Other views are not insults..
#407955 - 01/15/0905:33 PMRe: Gay marriage
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newkojak
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I'm not trying to be hyper-sensitive here, but please realize that you are inferring that I (and anyone who makes the same distinction that I am) don't know the difference between homosexuality and rape.
It's not the point you are making that I think is insulting and I'm not getting upset because I know that you are an incredibly caring person. I do think that you are making a totally obtuse connection though.
If you set up homosexuals as an "other," than it is incredibly easy to also lump in all of the other deviants and assume that they are related. That's the exact same reasoning that outlawed miscegeny in the United States until well after the civil rights movement.
Sex between an adult and a child and an animal is not just horrifying because society has set an arbitrary standard. Society (mostly) has decided that these people cannot possibly give consent, so it's rape plain and simple.
Yeah, I mean gay unions aren't disqualified from marriage for want of consent to some arrangement but for want of some other qualification such as the requirement that it be between one man and one woman and that it be consummated.
Sex between an adult and a child and an animal is not just horrifying because society has set an arbitrary standard. Society (mostly) has decided that these people cannot possibly give consent, so it's rape plain and simple.
I find a kind of double standard in your statement. Mainly, that people label it horrific and criminal if I were to hump my dog, but smile and say he "doesn't know any better" when he humps me without my consent! I can assure you he knows exactly what he's doing!
As an interesting aside, the dog and cat that I kept when I found those kittens in the summer could be considered married, or at least in severe lust of each other. She's constantly presenting to him and recently I've caught them trying to copulate. I can't wait until they're finally fixed.
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#407974 - 01/15/0906:21 PMRe: Gay marriage
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RedStudebaker
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Well, there was a time when women were not defined as human. They were defined as property. And I do not doubt that this little bit of social change was fervently fought against.