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#405924 - 01/04/09 08:18 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: keymaker]
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It wasn't the central theme in any of 'em
No? Then why is divorce mentioned in the first sentence of the first two of the three examples? And no links to further substantiate? Tsk, tsk. For someone who's always demanding that people cite evidence of their claims, you were a bissel sloppy on this one.

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you've most definitely got to pay for it
Since you're the breastfeeding authority, how about I pay you in nipples and dimes?
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#405928 - 01/04/09 08:35 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: steveg]
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why is divorce mentioned in the first sentence of the first two of the three examples?

What I said in the first example was "as might exist in a home where parents are divorced" which is one example only of why a child may not his father in his life. The second study was confined to divorce cases which was a condition not a theme,

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And no links to further substantiate? Tsk, tsk. For someone who's always demanding that people cite evidence of their claims

I gave links where there were links and didn't when there wasn't. Not everything is on the internet you know. And unlike you I don't 'demand' links but request them when it would serve some constructive purpose.

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#405929 - 01/04/09 08:39 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: keymaker]
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Hoi the loupom mikil bekerund the schalke min ropizot furkundit. Rata hande iro selim allere ne, werk ropizot volwonende — fan he — volwonende min. Rechtlika than an fremetgon scal ne than. crazy

The volwonende withirloop an vilo ne spraken fan, heilig behuodende tellunt ne hemiln wrisil in mundis noh. shocked
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#405938 - 01/04/09 09:04 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: keymaker]
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Do you happen to work in the field?


No. Just curious about your information source(s).

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#405939 - 01/04/09 09:07 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: steveg]
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you'd be eligible for a refund.


And I would like it in Euros please. wink

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#406004 - 01/05/09 07:49 AM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: steveg]
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That's easy for you to say...
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#406005 - 01/05/09 07:57 AM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: padmavyuha]
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My tuppence ha'penny: there's a huge body of evidence regarding the emotional difficulties caused by an absent father or mother while that parent is still actually physically present.

My point is that the trauma caused is overwhelmingly due not to the physical absence of the parent but to the absence of their love and attention. Give me loving caregivers of any gender (sorry, sex) over emotionally absent 'balanced pair' parents any day of the decade, please.
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#406012 - 01/05/09 11:31 AM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: padmavyuha]
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Just wanted to see if he'd have an answer, but I guess I finally stymied him. wink
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#406013 - 01/05/09 11:45 AM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: padmavyuha]
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Exactly my position, too. I've known many same-sex parents and their kids. Nearly a third of my youngest daughter's classmates at P.S. 11 in Manhattan had two moms or two dads, or had single parents. There were very few axe murders and very little male or female prostitution among those fourth graders. wink (Although, during one birthday party at our apartment, one of the gay dads seemed unnaturally taken with our cockatiel! shocked laugh )

But, we all know what the root of these stats are. In fact, the thinly veiled rationale behind the inception of this thread is, well, thinly veiled. sick
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#406083 - 01/05/09 08:07 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: padmavyuha]
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My tuppence ha'penny: there's a huge body of evidence regarding the emotional difficulties caused by an absent father or mother while that parent is still actually physically present.

That doesn't negate the research I posted of course. The original point was not about competing drawbacks in a child's upbringing but what arrangement provides the best balance of influences. This is generally achieved by the presence of the mother and father because each brings different qualities to bear in the child's upbringing.

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