Your bias is showing. Again. When someone says both parties are wrong, most people would interpret that as meaning they believe both parties are wrong. DOH! But only in the keymaker's way is the only way world would it mean that one side is favored over the other — with the implication, of course, being that only the player you have a beef with can be wrong, automatically rendering the other player right. *yawn*

How very convenient for you. How very entertaining* for us.


*In a droll sort of way.

As main supplier/supporter of Israel, it behooves the USA to assume the role of peacemaker.

Saying that both are at fault is tacit approval for what Israel is doing. After all, what's a bunch of low-tech rockets compared to that effective killing machine your tax Dollars have been paying for?
On one side of the border a house with a single hole in it. On the other cityscapes the likes of which haven't been seen since Dresden and Nakasaki.
Saying that both sides made mistakes is close to allowing Hitler the same excuse in 1944.

Over the past decades, Israel has become the evil little brother to bumbling Uncle Sam in how it deals with conflicts.
I am quite anxious to see Obama take action.
He can't just stay with the status quo, or he'll have lost all credibility before the game even starts for him.

One might also consider some international opinions, which hold that there is a strong internal reason for Israel to start a new war right now. War minister Barak (funny, eh?) and the evil lady who just failed reaching the top, are preparing for an election.
Cynical? You bet!
Nothing like sending the troops into a defenceless and headless nation fragment and creating havock. All in self defence!

Makes you sick!

and for carp, if he reads this .... those civilians who are being killed, don't live in spacious sub-divisions, where harbouring a terrorist would be a matter of choice, but in apartment blocks so crowded that most western people would choke. Those people have no influence on what happens five stories below them!

Oh, very original... the only trouble is that I spelled out exactly what was required two days ago, as if I hadn't done so after the Lebanon arocities in 2006, when I said:

"What's required then is a UN Resolution to establish an international force to take control in Israel and the establishment of a Gaza Genocide Tribunal to try all suspects in a neutral country such as Holland."

Nobody's going to be fooled by yours or anybody's cynical critiicism of the UN when it's the US veto that torpedoes constuctive action every time.

I call again for all suspected war criminals to be arrested and put on trial at a Gaza Genocide Tribunal to be established at the UN - this time without US prevarication or abuse of process.

km

Don't make a fool of yourself Steve because that's what you're going to if you want to deny what I've stated in clear terms on these boards. It's also rather foolish to suggest an equal division of blame when one side is illegally annexing the land of the other and when there's such a disparity in human loss.

km

i certainly didn't vote for Obama to see him stick with the status quo in this conflict. i want to see action that can start the this region down a road towards peace. fingers crossed.

I wouldn't dream of stealing your act.

Let Hamas show a real interest in a peaceful solution. A mutually beneficial solution. Let them belay their belligerent and antagonistic behavior and make a legitimate case for a resolution and a return of at least some of their land, and maybe — just maybe — Israel wouldn't be so predisposed to kick their asses into next month. Just maybe there wouldn't be anything for Israel to over-react to.

I've got to believe that the notion of wiping Israel off the map appeals to you. Yeah, let 'em go back to wandering in the desert for another 1,000 years. Perfect!

Why do you say that?

km

you can't expect Israel to sit back and ignore missiles.

But you can expect the Palestinians to sit back and ignore the rape and plunder of their homeland??? Their homes being stolen??? Being walled off into "reservations"???

Oh, yes, I forgot. They did get better plumbing and public sanitation out of the deal! ... a comment which I personally heard an Israeli make to a Jerusalem Arabic family back in 1971 as justification for their Occupation of Palestine. Some trade-off!

I DO agree the US should take a more active role in peacemaking, but don't expect anything out of the current bozo... 18 days he's history as President - NOT that it would matter... he hasn't done anything in 8 years, but create wars !

I DO think when Israel occupied Palestinian land - we should have put our foot down, and done all we could to stop it (i.e. non-violently = negotiations, etc.). I don't think we did squat then- just let it slide. There does need to be more evenhandedness of the situation from our end, but that doesn't excuse Hamas for their atrocities either.

Would answering that question serve any purpose other than giving you something else to deny or reject? No, I think I'll adopt six's very wise strategy of simply avoiding any further one-sided conversations with you.

I fully expect you to interpret my disengagement as your having won the debate*. I look at it as popping Advil prophylactically, and putting my time to better use.


*Careful when you spike the ball in the end zone. Wouldn't want an errant bounce to cause any more nut numbness.