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#405226 - 12/30/08 09:13 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: keymaker]
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It is Christmas.
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#405228 - 12/30/08 09:25 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: Leslie]
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LOL! I'll try to throw in a few more tomorrow... or the day after.

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#405243 - 12/30/08 09:58 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: keymaker]
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#405245 - 12/30/08 10:00 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: keymaker]
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Originally Posted By: keymaker
LOL! I'll try to throw in a few more tomorrow... or the day after.

km


I knew you had it in you.
Thanks km.

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#405246 - 12/30/08 10:01 PM Re: Love these conversations. [Re: keymaker]
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What you call rude... What you call personal jabs are me calling you out on your obstinate dismissal of anything you don't hold up as reality.

Actually I wasn't referring to you... Mr B was commenting on the exchange between Yoyo and me and I was simply dissociating myself from his 'personal jabs' observation. That was Mr B's term incidentally not mine. Most people here seem to think that personal attacks are rude and unnecessary so if you think otherwise I'm sure we're all looking forward to your explanation.

km


Actually, I was referring to the whole thread not anyone or two or three individuals.You are right that "Personal jabs" was my term .

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#405754 - 01/03/09 08:42 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: Leslie]
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Okay Lester, you wanted a few more examples of how men and women bring different qualities to child rearing on account of biological gender effects particular to their sex.

I could mention for example...

Father-absent aggression in boys

Fatherless boys as might exist in a home where parents are divorced exhibit greater levels of aggression encompassing anti-social behaviour than pertains in homes where the father was present. This was shown in a study by Santrock J W 1977 Effects of father absence on sex-typed behaviours on male children - Journal of Genetic Psychology.

Father-absent early heterosexual behavour in girls

Compared to girls brought up in a nuclear family where mother and father are both present teenage girls whose fathers are absent through divorce exhibit early heterosexual behaviour and attention-seeking from males. This was found in a study by Hetherington E M 1972 Effects of father absence on personality development in adolescent daughters - Development Psychology.

Child Intellectual advancement from parental role-reversal

Where the traditional roles of parents are reversed so that the father becomes the primary carer a child's intellectual development is enhanced and the enhancement is greater in girls than in boys. This was the conclusion of a study by Radin N 1982 Primary caregiving and role-sharing fathers - Child Development.

That's your lot because that makes 6 examples worth £5,994.00 pounds sterling which I've offered as a special favour to you under my pro-bono scheme. crazy

km

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#405888 - 01/04/09 06:23 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: keymaker]
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Thanks for taking the time km.
IMO they all sound a little off-balance, and very old-1982,1977,1972.


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#405916 - 01/04/09 07:45 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: Leslie]
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Not to mention that divorce seems to be a central theme in those examples, and that's not the best comparison because of the stress and high emotion involved in such situations.

A child simply not having been breast fed, and a child in the middle of a parental conflict — possibly thrust into the role of pawn where one or both parents use him/her as a bludgeon against the other — are two very different models. The latter is invariably going to manifest a more profound emotional/behavioral response than the former.

Good thing you weren't charged for this research, or you'd be eligible for a refund. grin
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#405919 - 01/04/09 07:53 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: Leslie]
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they all sound a little off-balance, and very old 1982, 1977, 1972.

In case you're interested they're all decribed in: Schaffer 'Making Decisions about Children'. The second edition <--- is 10 years old and I've got the first edition! One wouldn't expect the findings to be any different today however since they concern very deep-rooted, almost primeval human behaviour.

Do you happen to work in the field?

km

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#405921 - 01/04/09 08:06 PM Re: Pope debunks gender theory [Re: steveg]
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Not to mention that divorce seems to be a central theme in those examples

It wasn't the central theme in any of 'em - just one instance of when such effects would occur. Don't worry, the researchers are all of world renown as experts in the field and all used controls in their research to eliminate distortion in the findings,

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Good thing you weren't charged for this research, or you'd be eligible for a refund.

Actually I provided it to Lester free of charge but you've most definitely got to pay for it - £5,994.00 smackers, 7 days. smirk

km

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