#405120 - 12/30/0804:55 AMRe: Pope debunks gender theory
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Since men and women bring different qualities to child-rearing
May I borrow one of your terms? Rubbish! What different qualities? List, please.
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biological differences gender confusion whereby one or other is missing in the child's upbringing could be detrimental to his or her welfare in the sense that the best balance is denied.
As you often proclaim, that's a load of crap! Best balance? Oh please, how many heterosexual couples screw it up for lack of balance? Neither one of us has time to tally the stats.
Gender, regardless of it's source, is a disposable (or even adaptable) attribute when it comes to child rearing. Your needle is stuck in the Men are from Mars, women are from Venus groove. You can't or won't acknowledge that, simply as human beings, two men or two women are capable of loving, nurturing, and facilitating the emotional well-being of children the same way a "traditional" pair of parents can. And you come by this assumption... how? On what indisputable facts do you base this position? Your own bias? Sorry, not nearly good enough.
#405123 - 12/30/0805:26 AMRe: Pope debunks gender theory
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keymaker
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What different qualities? List, please.
Nurturing by breastfeeding, for example, the natural tendency of mothers to engage in more holding of infants than do fathers and the natural tendency of fathers to engage in more game-playing.
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Best balance?
That's right... breastfeeding and the holding tendency of mothers for example and game-playing by fathers.
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Gender, regardless of it's source, is a disposable (or even adaptable) attribute when it comes to child rearing.
Oh yeah I'm really looking forward to your example of male breastfeeding.
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On what indisputable facts do you base this position? Your own bias?
No, personal experience backed up by the research and conclusions of experts in the field.
#405146 - 12/30/0808:30 AMRe: Pope debunks gender theory
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LOL. By "normal" I mean average, not an axe murderer, not a raging sociopath, not a habitual child molester, not a scat freak... But you seem to imply that without breastfeeding, one is at great risk of being any one or combination of the above. You propose that a child not breastfed is doomed to social, physical, and intellectual failure. You hypothesize that the parent that does not breastfeed her child should have her parenting license pulled.
And BTW, do you apply this same rather narrow criteria to a lesbian couple? Or in that case do you assume that a lack of tossing a football around places the child at an insurmountable disadvantage? I mean, can your argument possibly be any more stereotypically stilted?
Nurturing by breastfeeding, for example, the natural tendency of mothers to engage in more holding of infants than do fathers and the natural tendency of fathers to engage in more game-playing.
#405153 - 12/30/0808:56 AMRe: Pope debunks gender theory
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It does get pwetty siwwy. Both of my girls are adopted. The oldest surrendered at birth to an orphanage in Bogota, the other abandoned on a dock near Wu Chang. Neither were breastfed — certainly not more than once or twice by their respective birth mothers, not while in foster care, nor after we received them. I guess that make our family dangerously unbalanced. Not to mention that any college savings will likely go, instead, to various psychiatrists, bail, and defense attorneys in the near future. *sigh*