NK is right on chronology, but maybe Matt means the 2004 election? Or maybe he doesn't distinguish MM from MC? In any case, the elections and their results are so profoundly different that the comparison would be inappropriate even in MM had been in full liberal chorus back in 2000. I know that wingnuts think that calling the results in 2000 a stolen election is whining. But the results were indeed contested, contestable, and in the opinion of many people, wrong on the law and wrong on the facts. The circumstances of that election lent themselves almost automatically to denigrating the winner. Katherine Harris--remember her? Here she is playin' possum
Trust that woman with the results of an election? Trust butterfly ballots? Trust that the brother of the "winner" had no influence on the results? Trust that the "winner's" father's appointees to the Supreme Court had no conflict of interest and therefor did not recuse themselves? Sure, why not? And that's how the wingnuts say we're supposed to respond or else be whiners.
If that's the case, I'll wear the title whiner as proudly as can be, cause not to be a whiner is to be a fool.
Oh wait, I am a fool
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#398096 - 11/19/0804:42 PMRe: Obama continues to party like it's 1999
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Really, when it comes down to it, good doctors are technicians.
Not to get too technical but I think you mean technologist.
Technicians are specialists with an education suited to jobs that require expert knowledge in particular tasks, such as troubleshooting, inspection, servicing, manufacturing, testing, sampling, repair, installation, maintenance, basic design or operations. Their training programs are generally between one and two years in length and stress practical skills. Technicians often become the recognized expert in a certain process, machine or plant. Technologists must study more advanced courses in math, engineering theory and scientific principles. Their programs usually run from three to five years.
carp, this may help you understand things with regard to Daschle:
Health policy wonks and universal health care advocates celebrated the move. The American Prospect's Ezra Klein called Daschle's appointment "huge news, and the clearest evidence yet that Obama means to pursue comprehensive health reform."
You don't tap the former Senate Majority Leader to run your health care bureaucracy. That's not his skill set. You tap him to get your health care plan through Congress. You tap him because he understands the parliamentary tricks and has a deep knowledge of the ideologies and incentives of the relevant players. You tap him because you understand that health care reform runs through the Senate. And he accepts because he has been assured that you mean to attempt health care reform.
Compare the choice of Daschle to Clinton's decision to task Hillary Clinton and Ira Magaziner with health care reform. Neither Clinton nor Magaziner had any relevant experience in Washington, either with the health care bureaucracy or with the legislative branch. [...] The choice of Daschle suggests that the Obama team has learned those lessons well.
they're talking about when Hillary tried to do health care back in Bill's administration and failed badly with congress.
You don't tap the former Senate Majority Leader to run your health care bureaucracy. That's not his skill set. You tap him to get your health care plan through Congress.
Still thats not my point - maybe he can get the health care plan through maybe he is the right person to do it --> but would he really understand which is the right health care plan without the medical knowledge ? ? or should someone like Hilary , just drop a plan off and say go Tom goooooo
Obama's team is writing this health care plan, carp -- they've likely already written most of it (and Daschle was already an adviser on this part of Obama's campaign, fwiw). the head of this department then runs with the plan and sells it to congress. that's why this position needs someone who can navigate the road ahead as it's bound to be very, very rocky. i assure you that Daschle has been involved in health care issues extensively over his 19 year Senate career and he's be just fine to carry the gauntlets here.
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