If that's the case, then H. Habilis is correct to suggest that the state has absolutely no business in certifying marriages, period.
Well, I've conceded to FSM that as long as the Church leadership is given the legal power of veto over what is celebrated as marriage in a religious ceremony then his model of universal civil unions that include marriage could be viable.
if voters were not to feel bad about the change in California they wouldn't have voted against the measure would they
If the Mormon Church had kept its nose up its own ass and not poured $$$ fuled FUD into Prop 8, the outcome would have been different. You can dance your veiled homophobic attitudes all around the ballroom, but the topic is Prop 8.
Why don't you just start another thread: Gay* marriage is wrong and KM has all the definitive answers as to why this is the case, end of debate.
Edit: I changed it to Gay marriage, instead of Gary* marriage. Duh, sorry Gary.
Edited by Lea (11/16/0811:32 AM)
_________________________ I always deserve it. Really.
I doubt they suffer from the same wedgie you do. Obama may have his POV, but methinks he has an open mind and the ability adapt. In fact, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a shift in his stance just based on reciprocity.
Careful with your answer now. I just waxed the floor.
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