<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>She went to college right? How did she do that without running into a little science?<p><hr></blockquote><p>In fairness, I went to the Mass College of Art and the only science I ever ran into in four years was how to grow my MJ faster. <br><br>
This is what Palin said, "Where does a lot of that earmark money end up anyway? You've heard about some of these pet projects they really don't make a whole lot of sense and sometimes these dollars go to projects that have little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not."<br><br>Scientists do research on fruit flies. Some of the most powerful tools in genetics and molecular biology are available in fruit flies, and these are animals that are particularly amenable to experimentation. Molecular genetics has revealed that humans share key molecules, the basic developmental toolkit, with all other animals, thanks to our shared evolutionary heritage, and that we can use these other organisms to probe the fundamental mechanisms that underlie core processes in the formation of the nervous system — precisely the phenomena Palin claims are so important.<br><br>The ironic part of it all is fruit fly research has led to advances In understanding autism.<br><br>I am not sure if Palin is just plain ignorant or if Palin's aversion to fruit fly research is because of her creationistic way of thinking.<br><br>I don't know the political views of Wolffe and Meyers.<br>But Meyers has a right to be irritated with Palin because he is a scientist.<br><br><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/HCXqKEs68Xk&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HCXqKEs68Xk&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br><br><br><br><br>
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
That's not the point, carp. You also don't hear either of them ridiculing a subject they're unfamiliar with. This woman is not just stupid, she's utterly without tact or respect for anyone. If you don't know anything about a topic, you'd be foolish to offer up an argument against it. And you'd be a complete moron to trash-talk it. Here's how clueless she is: she's got a special needs baby, and she's promising to be an advocate for special needs parents. Don't you think she or her handlers have an obligation to be up to speed on related technologies or treatments or research or programs? At least enough to demonstrate some awareness and sensitivity? Man, you are defending the indefensible.<br><br>
Thanks Clark<br><br>Bottom line - I betcha in Alaska a fruit fly research is pork barrel - And its not fair for a governor of a state thats not affected with that fly problem to completely understand the problems of France for that matter<br><br>I would have like to hear Bidens answer on this pop question ? and Obama too<br><br>I can tell you that if you asked our Governor about this fly problem she would have educated the scientist as well - its just not a fair question for Palin to answer and like I mention I bet Obama would not have answered correctly either<br><br>
Biden does not need DNA experience. Drosphila was used as a animal model decades before DNA was known as the genetic material. Way before Biden was elected to the Senate for the first time. <br><br>Both Biden and Obama would know that fruit flies are important. Even McCain would have been taught it in junior high. That far back.<br><br>There is no excuse.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
No I hate to say it Steve - but sometimes your just not there in thought<br><br>Keep in mind when did a governor get thrown into a Nation wide debate on how smart you are ? ? from what news papers you read to the DNA on fruit flies ? ?<br><br>Simply Palin did NOT have aspirations at this time for going into national office - She was offered a chance and went for it as anyone would do , even you Steve.<br><br>Sure its a bit over her head right now and she is caught of guard - But I do believe she does have the metal to grow into the position <--but do we have that time ? Anyway she is a fighter and a smart lady and does have a future.<br><br>Bottom line - To drop any of us in this forum yes Poly too - we all would sound like dumb shiits , , well speaking for myself , but more so for you just kidding<br><br>
Now you went and made MY head explode!<br><br>When they're talking about "Fruit Flies" ...they are NOT referring to<br>the potential of the amount of possible Crop Damage they can are<br>unquestionably able to inflict...<br><br>...When they're referring to the SAME Fruit Fly as a Biological Model,<br>the SAME Fruit Fly is becomes an INVALUABLE TOOL by which to <br>study genetics and mutations under laboratory conditions, because ,<br>as you rightly pointed out, they multiple at an ALARMING rate. MANY<br>Generations in a very short amount of time. <br><br>To be able to study and track an abnormality in say 5 generations <br>of humans you'd need to study them under controlled conditions<br>for 75-100 years... whereas in a family of fruit flies, 5 generations<br>can not only be studied within weeks (rather than years) but you'd <br>also have thousands of subjects to freeze, crush, dissect etc. as<br>you tease out the strand of genetic material relevant to your study.<br><br><br>So to You & Me (as gardeners or people whose economy depend <br>upon perfect blemish-free fruit) the Fruit Fly will continue to be<br>a wretched pain in the arse! But to Polymerase (and people of his<br>ilk) the Same GD PEST will remain an invaluable boon to mankind.<br><br> [color:white].<br></font color=white> [color:white]. .</font color=white>"Fool us thrice...and we get what we deserve."
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She wasn't caught off guard by a "gotcha" question. She volunteered the fruit fly example without understanding the project. I'm sure there are a lot of examples of waste of taxpayer money for her to pull from, so she didn't do her homework. Just one more example of why she's not ready for prime time.<br><br>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p><br>You know that McCain never agreed to spend billions of dollars on children of special needs. - Correct but this is Palins special project if she is elected which will win some votes from families "2 each" that are touch by special needs children - In contrast Obama not even touched that subject yet with a plan.<p><hr></blockquote><p>do you have any idea what "EAR-MARKS" Are?<br><br>MONEY SET ASIDE FOR YOUR OWN PET PROJECTS!!!!<br><br>as we've all said multiple times (in reference to McLAME'S<br>"EAR-MARK PEN" he swears to STRIKE DOWN EVERY ONE)<br>--- SOME ARE ACTUALLY GOOD PROJECTS!!!! ---<br><br>DUMB & DUMBER!<br><br>She's creating earmarked projects while claiming that she's<br>against Them ALL... and McDUMBER is Swearing to Knock <br>Them ALL Down... without regard to their potential merit!<br><br> [color:white].<br></font color=white> [color:white]. .</font color=white>"Fool us thrice...and we get what we deserve."
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