Such wringing of wrists. Such gnashing of teeth. Such indigestion! <br><br>I'm not gonna debate whether this was McLame's dumbest or craftiest move yet. But the vitriol and outcry aimed squarely between Palin's big brown eyes -- as if the choice were hers to make -- is hilarious. <br><br>My gawd, this is still a woman of substance. She obviously has a backbone and the chops to govern. And her path to this moment in her career is still a classic American Dream story.<br><br>But nooooooooooo... let's make sure she gets the scarlet letter ASAP! Let's make sure we publish the YouTube videos of her and her boss-to-be schtupping in decadent abandon. Let's make sure her bimboness becomes her lifetime brand.<br><br>I do not agree with her positions on abortion and gay marriage. I'm not a fan of the NRA. And I might be a bit concerned about her taking the helm if McLame falls down and can't get up. But I do see a certain pragmatic strength in her character (albeit she's barley been on my radar for two days now).<br><br>But what is most entertaining is the mass anxiety attack over a decision that should bring smiles and whoops of joy to the Obamanites. If Palin's selection is the death knell of the McLame campaign, celebrate! The woman should be granted goddess status. If -- as so many here will raptly tell you -- President Obama is a done deal, then what does it matter who the GOP's VP candidate is.<br><br>Oh, it's just gotta be a ploy to grab Hillary's disenfranchised base. And it's just gotta be because she made McLame's sticker peck out. And, boy howdy, it's just gotta be great to have us a real witch burning!<br><br>Oy. This forum out to be the next series on TrueTV. Not reality. Redicularity!<br><br><br><br>
i am happy for Obama, no doubt. but i predicted Kerry would win as has been noted. obviously, anything can happen. as an American, John McCain scares me. do we want a leader who shoots from the hip on the biggest decisions he makes? McCain made a decision after meeting with Palin 1 time back in February. he doesn't know her yet. the mere fact that pundits and you are talking about this being a huge political gamble should be a huge red flag for everyone. we don't know Palin at all.<br><br>Obama has spent the past 18 months being vetted by opponents, the media, and the American people. he had more than 20 debates; Palin will be in 1. Obama has participated in the democratic process and emerged victorious against one of the most formidable and favored candidates in a primary we've ever seen who wasn't an incumbent. Palin was selected by 1 man 2 months before the big election. she'll be a heartbeat away from commanding our military and fighting the war on terror. we don't even know her at all other than the brief narrative provided yesterday. McCain will be the oldest first serving president in history and he has a history of cancer. 8 presidents have died in office. i am not scared that she'll help McCain as elections tend to be about the top of the ticket; rather, as a citizen, i am scared of the unknown with the stakes this high. McCain is, in essence, asking us to take a gamble with him. conservatives can spout off about Obama being unknown, but that's hogwash. he may be unknown compared to George Bush, but he is far more known than Palin and i'd bet most people know more about Obama and his history better than they know about McCain (beyond being a POW).<br><br>you're worried that Palin is going to be defined by a youtube video? seriously? after seeing the rev. wright videos non-stop, we still saw Obama tackle the issue and emerge as a viable candidate. if Palin is truly as great as the moment requires then she'll be just fine without your feigned defense of her. surely she was vetted well by McCain though so why would stuff coming out scare you? it's called politics. most presidential and vice presidential candidates go through it extensively. most, that is. again, it's not about Palin; it's about the mind of McCain. he is the guy who said a central theme of this election is about the war on terror and McCain is the guy who created the narrative of Obama not being ready to be president. how can he believe any of that if he chose Palin? the answer is, he can't. <br><br><br>--<br>[color:red] Kansas Jayhawks -- 2008 National Champions </font color=red><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by FSM on 08/30/08 06:05 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
There was a Washington Post editorial I believe, that echoed this. He talks about experience and all that and then picks someone so green to replace him, especially with all the concerns about his health.<br><br>We are STILL what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
_________________________ We are what we repeatedly do - Aristotle
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>There was a Washington Post editorial I believe, that echoed this. He talks about experience and all that and then picks someone so green to replace him, especially with all the concerns about his health.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Roosevelt picked Truman as his running mate knowing that he wouldn't live out his next term and then proceeded to keep him totally out of the loop, only having one meeting of little substance after the election. But he must have seen enough in Truman that know that he was leaving the country in capable hands. Maybe the Palin choice was an act of desperation but, from what little I've read of her, I'm guessing she would grow into the job very quickly. I never had that feeling about Dan Quayle and my feeling was justified judging by the Quayle surrogate we've had for the last eight years.<br><br>
&[censored] crazy over the Palin selection. You, on the other hand ought to install a heat dissipator in your keyboard.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>McCain is the guy who created the narrative of Obama not being ready to be president.<p><hr></blockquote><p>One of the very very few things McCain has said that I agree with.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>how can he believe any of that? the answer is, he can't<p><hr></blockquote><p>Again, if this decision has in fact completely scuttled his chances, why the consternation? What the drumbeat? Why not sit back and wait for the Obama victory lap? Methinks thou dost protest too much.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Truman served as a United States Senator for 10 years in D.C. prior to being VP, fwiw. <p><hr></blockquote><p>Oh really? I must have missed that when I read McCullough's book. <br><br>Lincoln only had two years of national experience representing a congressional district (and it was 16 years before he became President) when he was elected and seemed to do OK.<br><br>
About Lincoln. He has been placed in great esteem by history but in his day he was hated by millions. And hated for years after he was gone. After all, the nation was put through the most dreadful of times during his reign, maybe a more qualified president could have gotten us out of that with out all that bloodshed and strife. We don't know.<br><br>dave<br><br><br><br>
If we don't count our blessings We are just wasting our time
Yep. I have several books on Lincoln and people don't realize how hated he was during his administration. The political cartoons and editorials are scathing. He only won reelection in 1864 because of a few well-timed military victories. That, and George McClelland being an idiot. But, I don't know what any other President could have done better (other than never hiring McClelland). There was either going to be a bloody conflict to keep the nation together or the country would have split and slavery would have been continued in the south for decades more.<br><br>
I think you are probably right. But history has a funny thing about who it likes. Take Jefferson. Barely made reelection. Did some good things, in the long run, during his terms. lewis and Clark. Lousiana purchase. Not sure he would make it through today's election process especiall with that slave thing. It would depend on how the times would accept slavery. Mores change.<br><br>dave<br><br>
If we don't count our blessings We are just wasting our time
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