<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Dems and Republicans are all guilty as flippin' sin. I wish they'd just give up pretending they're not.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Exactly. Dems like Pelosi, Leahy and Reid all pretend as if they're NOT talking squarely about themselves when they moan on endlessly about the divisiveness in Washington. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Put 'em in an online forum with no moderator. That'll separate the mice from the men and the pu$sies from the women (did I get that backwards? )<p><hr></blockquote><p>Now why'd you have to go talkin' about the good ol' days like that?! <br><br>***************<br><br>This space left intentionally blank
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Would you care to list the things Bush II promised and now we'll all join you at yawning over his not making good on those promises. <br><br>All politicians do it! They have good intentions, but -- thankfully -- Presidents cannot make good on ALL their promises because they are not dictators. They have to first win the support of the House and Senate and write good legislation. They have to do that with the help of the voters who put the members of both House and Senate in place to consider, debate, and then decide on the bills, etc.<br><br>Don't tell anyone, but I do not expecet O to make good on all his promises! I hope he does and I will be thrilled if that happens, but I'm not betting any money on it.<br><br>O is full of good intentions too! <br><br><br><br><br>
"Presidents cannot make good on ALL their promises because they are not dictators. They have to first win the support of the House and Senate and write good legislation."<br><br>But I will say GW was Pres, and he had a GOP Congress for 6 years, you'd think he'd gotten a lot of GOP agenda accomplished.... and he did get a lot... all the tax cuts for the wealthy 2%, the Rx drug bill for the Pharmacy Industry, breaks for big Oil, all the "no bid" contracts for Halliburton, and Cheney's buddies, raped the Constitution with infringing on civil rights.... NCLB to wreck education... he did a lot ... of damage ! <br><br>David (OFI)
Yes a lot of damage...then after four years the American voters gave him "Whoops we did it again" with four more years ....go figure <br>Winston Churchill was right.....Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room.<br>Obviously the organ grinder had long died when Bush entered the race for PRES.....and the voters listened to....well I don't need to tell you who <br>Kind of the same reason why I don't let any of my dogs drive.....<br><br>
<br>heeheehee<br><br>"Kind of the same reason why I don't let any of my dogs drive....." <br><br>good one! <br><br>At least you kept your sensaumma'!<br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> <br>
Not directed at you Cel, but you were the last post in the thread.<br><br>I've stopped participating in the political threads except now and then to make a funny (or at least humorous) post where the humor doesn't depend on political name calling, but I really do have to jump in here and say something about divisiveness. I'm listening to Pres. Carter on MSNBC right now, and he reminds me of how it is that the South became a Republican fiefdom, as a response to the Civil Rights movement and the courageous policy of LBJ to support that movement. The division from which we're suffering right now began then, was worsened by Nixon's southern strategy, and fostered by Reagan in a subtler but equally racially loaded way. The division having been fomented on racial grounds, it then went viral . . . and I'm afraid that the bulk of the posts in this forum are evidence of that. I mean, I read the posts, so I know that we can make fun of Obama's middle name and joke about McCain's inability to use email--but there is almost nothing here that is substantial.<br><br>I have not a clue about what anyone thinks about the responsibility of government. Should government be involved in helping people in need? To what extent? Under what conditions? With what resources for paying? I have no idea what people think about taxation. Should government cut taxes to the bare bones? Is it legitimate to tax the wealthy at a higher rate than the less wealthy? Is it fair to make the tax rate for capital gains less than the tax rate for earned income? I have no idea what people think about the role of the US in foreign policy. Should the US maintain its presence in every continent on the planet? Should the US remove or leave its bases from Europe? from Asia? Why? What is the function of military strength, anyway? Should the US continue to spend more annually on its military expenditures than the rest of the world put together? Why?<br><br>Up to this point, the Soapbox has become completely pointless, verging on unreadable.<br><br>[color:red]</font color=red> [color:orange]</font color=orange> [color:yellow]</font color=yellow> [color:green]</font color=green> [color:blue]</font color=blue> [color:purple]</font color=purple>
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p><br>Up to this point, the Soapbox has become completely pointless, verging on unreadable.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Said the same thing somewhere else but with a touch more jackass. It makes me upset to see so many people who's opinions I value discussing such crap. <br><br>
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>It makes me upset to see so many people who's opinions I value discussing such crap.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I'm not the self-appointed forum jackass and I still get to say this:<br><br>Who the hell cares what gets you upset? I mean, could you BE more egotistic? Seriously, guys, grow a sense of humor and enjoy the excesses of our system ...<br><br>It really IS possible to have more than one conversation at a time -- just because we may be bantering about doric columns doesn't mean we can't debate policy as well ...<br><br>lighten-up ...<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...
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