I may not agree with this totally, but it is fodder for thought. I cut and paste from the bottom of an article:<br><br><blockquote> An August Fox/Opinion poll found that Clinton's name--(and that of no other mate)--gives Obama an 8-point boost. Obama needs the boost.<br><br>Other considerations:<br><br>1. If Obama runs with a white man, he is by contrast a black one. If he runs with a woman, he is by contrast a man.<br><br>We perceive race visually. It's counterintuitive, but refuge in the traditional authority--the white male--may highlight what Obama's not.<br><br>2. It will offend middle-America to see a black man positioned prominently above a white one.<br><br>The nominee and running-mate stand adjacent during speeches, rallies, and in commercials. Low-income Whites may recoil when they see a black man positioned over a white one.<br><br>3. Most successful black candidates have undergone a "hazing"--military service, an impoverished upbringing, etc.--which makes them acceptable to whites. Tolerating Hillary could be that hazing.<br><br>Those who despise Clinton may find new sympathy for Obama if they watch him having to put up with her. And by playing off each other, the two could add much-needed levity to the campaign. They could also make themselves more likable.<br><br>"Don't worry, Barack," Hillary could say, "the restaurant we're eating at tonight has arugala."<br><br>He'd respond, "Oh, by the way, Hill? I'm the nominee."<br><br>"Yeah, well," she'd say, "not everyone's as tall and skinny as you."<br><br>4. Most low-income whites will not vote for a black man, but they may vote for an absurdist joke.<br><br>Clinton's being a woman may cancel out Obama's being black and render the ticket just crazy enough to be sane. "It's crazy--" the blue-collar worker might say, "it's lunacy, why the hell not? Don't I want change?"<br><br> <br>Obama may loathe Hillary. But he says he wants to be president. No one knows who Tim Kaine is. No one will be reassured by his presence. And with him beside Obama, Obama's still what he is now: a diffident, perplexing, cosmopolitan, slightly arrogant black man. With Hillary beside him, Obama's the new guy on the team, and a hot ticket.</blockquote><br><br>They discuss the "Bradley Effect" that has been on my mind ever since O won the nomination. White voters may 'say' they are going to vote for Obama, and that is reflected in Polls, but when they actually vote, they feel they cannot vote for an African American/Black person and do not vote for him.<br><br>Examples of black persons losing elections when they went into an election as leading by many points are cited.<br><br>Hillary is the choice if Obama wants to win this election!!<br><br>Well, I could be wrong and he picks someone else and wins. That won't make me mad at all!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Loc: Alpharetta, GA
I think the recent woman problems of Edwards make Clinton an unlikely choice. Considering BIll doesn't seem to have given up his womanizing ways, the last thing the Democrats need is another bimbo eruption two weeks before the election. Yep, that's not fair to Hillary Clinton, but thems the breaks.<br><br>
Obama can't and wont pick Hillary. it will be his downfall if he does.<br><br>I know that you like her, but, IMO Hilary is a devious snake in the grass. If she becomes veep, she will will work, underhandedly to bring him down. I really do believe this. I just think she is all out for herself and doesnt' care much for anything or anyone else. It would be insane for him to pick her.<br><br>Next, he can't pick any other woman. If he would pick any other woman this will anger Hilary supporters and they just may not vote of if they do they might even go for McCain. So he has to pick a man.<br><br> He can't pick a black man as that will further p.o. those democrats who are on the fence for voting for a black man in the first place. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>2. It will offend middle-America to see a black man positioned prominently above a white one.<br><p><hr></blockquote><p>Well, this might be true but think of the same people who will be appalled at seeing a black man above a white woman or even standing next to one.<br><br>dave<br><br>
There are 10 kinds of people. Those that understand binary and those that don't.
I think Barry chooses Clinton. The simple reason is he needs her right now. He's dropping in the polls like a rock, is behind McCain, had a lousy performance last Saturday night and is going to look horrible at the debates without a prompter. <br><br>He needs HRC to win. Senator Nobody ain't gonna cut it. <br><br>
I'd be a little more hesitant about accepting anything written by someone who throws around the term "middle-America." I damn near live there in Illinois. Aside from setting up an idiotic "bumpkin" caricature of voters that does a disservice to what people actually believe in in rural areas, it also denies the basic fact about the American electorate: there is no basic majority. Values Voters, Evangelicals, Nascar Dads, Soccer Moms, Security Moms... none of them exist. They are all just a figment of political reporters' collective imagination when they go to write their trite, boring, and mostly inaccurate post-hoc election analysis.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
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