Did McCain tell Solzhenitsyn's story ...<br><br>John McCain told quite a good story last night [from his autobiography it was told here] explaining what Christianity meant to him ... he recalled his torture as a POW and the symathetic VietCong who drew him a cross in the sand. Alexander Solzhenitsyn from his times in the Soviet Gulags:<br><br><br><br> Along with other prisoners, he worked in the fields day after day, in rain and sun, during summer and winter. His life appeared to be nothing more than backbreaking labor and slow starvation. The intense suffering reduced him to a state of despair.<br><br> On one particular day, the hopelessness of his situation became too much for him. He saw no reason to continue his struggle, no reason to keep on living. His life made no difference in the world. So he gave up.<br><br> Leaving his shovel on the ground, he slowly walked to a crude bench and sat down. He knew that at any moment a guard would order him to stand up, and when he failed to respond, the guard would beat him to death, probably with his own shovel. He had seen it happen to other prisoners.<br><br> As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly he looked up and saw a skinny old prisoner squat down beside him. The man said nothing. Instead, he used a stick to trace in the dirt the sign of the Cross. The man then got back up and returned to his work.<br><br> As Solzhenitsyn stared at the Cross drawn in the dirt his entire perspective changed. He knew he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet he knew there was something greater than the evil he saw in the prison camp, something greater than the Soviet Union. He knew that hope for all people was represented by that simple Cross. Through the power of the Cross, anything was possible.<br><br> Solzhenitsyn slowly rose to his feet, picked up his shovel, and went back to work. Outwardly, nothing had changed. Inside, he had received hope.<br><br>[excerpted from "The Gulag Archipelago" by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, which was released in the US in 1973.]<br><br>more found at Kos. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
mmmm... must be an epidemic of cross drawings in sand, Gary !!<br><br>THAT"S the only logical explanation !! <br><br>We know McCain wouldn't make something up like this.... I mean he may have lied about cheating on his wife in the late 1970's, but he'd never make up war stories knowing no one could ever confirm or deny them... naw, he wouldn't do that.<br><br>would he? <br><br>David (OFI)
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Well, I guess McCain really is cut from the same cloth as Reagan. Remember the kerfuffle when Reagan related an incident that he told as an event in his life but it was really a scene in a movie in which he appeared?<br><br>
I am an excellent memory so I remember that one. <br><br>[color:blue]In the 1980 presidential campaign, Ronald Reagan repeatedly told a heartbreaking story of a World War II bomber pilot who ordered his crew to bail out after his plane had been seriously damaged by an enemy hit. His young belly gunner was wounded so seriously that he was unable to evacuate the bomber. Reagan could barely hold back his tears as he uttered the pilot's heroic response: "Never mind. We'll ride it down together." ...this story was an almost exact duplicate of a scene in the 1944 film "A Wing and a Prayer." Reagan had apparently retained the facts but forgotten their source.<br><br>Schacter, Daniel L. Searching for Memory - the brain, the mind, and the past (New York: Basic Books, 1996).</font color=blue><br><br>It is likely both Reagan and McCain actually believe the incidents occurred.<br><br>
If McCain told this untrue story (lie) to Pastor Warren and his congregation to win political favor with Evangelicals, shouldn't that say something about his character and trustworthiness? Clinton struggled with her Bosnia Sniper Fire fabrication. If McCain lies to the country to a Pastor's question "how does Christianity enter your daily life", isn't that kinda gold-medal sleazy?<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>isn't that kinda gold-medal sleazy?<p><hr></blockquote><p><br> It sure is! <br><br>And you can expect more of this sleaze in the upcoming weeks I'm afraid.<br><br><br><br><br>[color:blue][/b]Hodie mihi. Cras tibi.</font color=blue>[/b]
Co-author of McCain's books is Mark Salter, one of McCain top campaign advisors. In McCain's autobiographies and books of wisdom there is probably lots of hero-making lore to be dissected.<br><br>Let's see where this story goes for the next few weeks.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Can we really be sure that it's a fiction? With Reagan it was obvioius. With McCain, there's room for belief. Vietnam had been ruled by France for about a century, and there were lots of Catholics in the country, so it's not entirely unlikely that what McCain recounted is true. I remember that once upon a time McCain was said not to be willing to use his Vietnam experiences for political gain, and I found the repeated references to those days a bit surprising, but I'll cut him a break. What I won't cut him a break about is his vagueness. When the preacher asked him whether the situation in Georgia would have warranted American intervention, he did not answer. Instead, he waxed rapturous on the wonders of democracy in Georgia (ignoring, by the way, that the provinces that are at issue are eager to separate themselves from Georgia, much as Kosovo has done, with the blessings of the US; I guess democracy doesn't work for them). I don't deny the wonders of democracy . . . but to speak about that is not to answer the question. That was typical of much of what McCain did during the interview. Hot dogs, Mom, and apple pie.<br><br>[color:red]</font color=red> [color:orange]</font color=orange> [color:yellow]</font color=yellow> [color:green]</font color=green> [color:blue]</font color=blue> [color:purple]</font color=purple>
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Like everyone else interested in the finer points of this campaign I will be looking to see what becomes of this whole issue. Seems even the Editor in Chief of Beliefnet, who published the McCain/Salter books is having some doubt about authenticity. This one may have some legs.<br><br>If I may quote a wise thing a friend told me here on this forum: "Too late. The toothpaste is out of the tube." <br><br><br><br><br><br>
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