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#374842 - 08/01/08 11:25 PM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: trey]
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Dense but legible page setting, small point size:<br><br>Here's (pdf) Franklin Gothic Condensed 7.8/9 and 7.4/9 set in 4 columns. That'll pack a lot of info on a page.<br><br>Even better, Bell Centennial (Subcaption) shown here set 6.7/7 (pdf), this is the font commonly used in the newspapers' stock listings because it works well at 5pt.<br><br>
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#374843 - 08/01/08 11:27 PM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: trey]
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Helvetica is pretty much the most readable font ever. I'd give a small bold version a try. Using a condensed font is probably going to make it too hard to read. Remember that the white space between the letters and parts of the letters is part of what makes them readable.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
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#374844 - 08/01/08 11:52 PM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: newkojak]
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I vote with you Kojak. Helvetica is the old all time favorite for me. <br><br>Too many lives they've spent across the ocean. Too much money been spent upon the moon. Well, until they make it right, I hope they never sleep at night. They better make some changes and do it soon. -Things Goin' On/Lynyrd Skynyrd
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#374845 - 08/02/08 02:26 AM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: Lea]
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#374846 - 08/02/08 03:34 AM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: Clark]
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Times Roman, as pedestrian as it is, was designed as a newspaper font, the idea being to pack a lot of information in as little space possible (saving money on paper) while maintaining legibility. To that end, Times Roman (NOT anything with "new" in the name!) has a fairly large x-height, is somewhat compressed and, being a Roman (serif) face, is more legible than sans serif faces like Helvetica, especially at small sizes. As a matter of fact, it is at its best being used at 7-8 points.<br><br>Even though you might be tempted to set your text solid to jam as much info into as little space as is possible, a couple of extra points of space will be appreciated by weary readers 8/10 or even 7/9 is a good choice. When type gets small, lines get long, I would consider using two or three columns of type to keep long lines from messing up legibility.<br><br>Laz, OFI[/i][color:green]<br>Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. — Groucho </font color=green>
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#374847 - 08/02/08 03:57 AM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: trey]
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Well, this is what I wound up with. It wasn't quite as much information as I had thought, so it won't be a really big deal to read. Times wound up being the font of choice (good point, John).<br><br>Now I just have to wait 'till the caffiene wears off so I can go to sleep. <br><br>

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#374848 - 08/02/08 04:32 AM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: trey]
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That's what I call a packed court. FDR would be proud of you!<br><br>[color:red]&#63743;</font color=red> [color:orange]&#63743;</font color=orange> [color:yellow]&#63743;</font color=yellow> [color:green]&#63743;</font color=green> [color:blue]&#63743;</font color=blue> [color:purple]&#63743;</font color=purple>
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#374849 - 08/02/08 05:45 AM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: yoyo52]
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That was actually one of the first topics we studied in this class. <br><br>

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#374850 - 08/02/08 06:05 AM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: trey]
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When I taught high school math, I would ocasionally let my students bring in a sheet of notes. Most of the time I would tell them that then spring on them that the sheet would be one inch by one inch, one or both sides. This would make my kids scream but there was mindness in my madness. If I made it restricted in size then the students would have to be particular in what they wrote down. In choosing those notes they would study harder. <br><br>I do remember one time when I let them bring in one sheet of notes and told them it could be any size but only on one side. One student xeroxed the whole chapter and taped the pages together to make sheet something like 3 feet by 4 feet. Like our old mosaics. He had so much fun making it. He was one of my best students and didn't use the sheet much but had fun.<br><br>I also recall way back in the early days of calculaters, when they were just simple scientific types, maybe in the mid early 80's. One of my students asked his history teacher if he could bring in a calculator for the test. The history teacher didn't know what he was letting himself in for when he said yeas. He just laughed. Well, my student had one of the rare, at that time, TI calcs that had a plug in memory module. He put a lot of his notes on it. <br><br>He told me after the fact. <br><br><br><br>dave<br><br><br><br>
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#374851 - 08/02/08 06:34 AM Re: Easily readable, small font? [Re: MrB]
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Yeah, that was my professor's point... making the sheet really drills the stuff in (and this is a tough class to swallow in summer school). I do feel really well prepared now to take the test just from what I know, but I think I'll take the sheet along with me anyway. <br><br>

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