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#361855 - 05/13/08 03:20 AM Re: Disgruntled Clinton ad team? [Re: garyW]
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Gary,<br>I agree that the text is Troopergate and has nothing to do with the title.<br>But that Troopergate has nothing to do with Bill Clinton and Paula Jone's Troopergate.<br>This is what was termed "Troopergate" for former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer because he ordered the State Police to create special records of Senate majority leader Joseph L. Bruno's whereabouts when he traveled with police escorts in New York City. Spitzer was trying to payback Bruno.<br><br>You can see words like withzer (Spitzer), Albany, Sean Patrick Maloney, and Nocenti. All of which are involved in New York's Troopergate investigation.<br><br><br>
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#361856 - 05/13/08 03:27 AM Re: Disgruntled Clinton ad team? [Re: Clark]
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"Troopergate scandal" and "Troopergate affair" are clearly legible in the text. I find it hard to believe this is just a coincidence.<br><br><br>Wiki on Troopergate<br><br>Troopergate is the popular name of an alleged scandal involving allegations by two Arkansas state troopers that they arranged sexual liaisons for then-governor Bill Clinton. The allegations by state troopers Larry Patterson and Roger Perry were first reported by David Brock in the American Spectator in 1993. The story mentioned a woman named Paula, a reference to Paula Jones.<br><br>
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#361857 - 05/13/08 03:33 AM I found the story [Re: garyW]
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This is the story from the New York Daily News on December 18, 2007:<br>The text in blue is the exact text from the Hillary Clinton ad.<br><br>Gov. Spitzer, aides mum on private lawyer hire in Troopergate scandal<br><br>BY JOE MAHONEY<br>DAILY NEWS ALBANY BUREAU CHIEF<br><br>Tuesday, December 18th 2007, 4:00 AM<br><br>ALBANY - Gov. Spitzer and his aides won't tell New Yorkers [color:blue]whether he has a private attorney to represent him in the Troopergate scandal.</font color=blue><br><br>[color:blue]At a tense press conference</font color=blue> at the state Capitol on Monday, Spitzer also refused to discuss the parallel probes by the Albany district attorney's office and the state Public Integrity Commission, insisting, "I have answered all these questions at length."<br><br>"Obviously, we are cooperating fully," he said.<br><br>[color:blue]"It is their job to do what they do," Spitzer said of investigators. "It is my job to cooperate, which is exactly what I have done. I have answered all the questions, over and over."</font color=blue><br><br>But Senate Investigations Committee Chairman George Winner (R-Elmira) said the governor was engaging in "more stonewalling" by refusing to [color:blue]tell the public whether he has retained a private attorney.</font color=blue><br><br>"This man is incapable of leveling with anyone," added Winner, whose committee has met stiff resistance from the administration on its subpoenas seeking e-mails and other documents relating to the effort by Spitzer aides to discredit Senate GOP leader Joe Bruno.<br><br>Spitzer did acknowledge, as reported in yesterday's Daily News, that his office received a new subpoena from Albany County District Attorney David Soares in the reopened investigation into the scandal.<br><br>Meanwhile, The News learned that the administration's chief counsel, David Nocenti, a witness in the [color:blue]Troopergate affair, has hired Albany lawyer Peter Moschetti, and another high-ranking Spitzer cabinet member, Sean Patrick Maloney, has retained Manhattan lawyer Bart</font color=blue> Schwartz.<br><br>[color:blue]Nocenti had notarized</font color=blue> a written statement signed by Darren Dopp, the governor's former communications director. Sources say Soares is trying to determine if Dopp has made false statements.<br><br>Spitzer, a former criminal prosecutor, balked at releasing a copy of the subpoena that Soares directed to his administration, saying, "I'm not sure what the rules are with respect to that."<br><br>Asked why Spitzer refuses to say whether he has a lawyer, the governor's spokesman, Errol Cockfield, said, "It would be inappropriate to comment while there are ongoing investigations." <br><br>
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#361858 - 05/13/08 03:39 AM Re: I found the story [Re: Clark]
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No doubt that's where the text was lifted, but in these campaign ads there's not a single image that isn't nuanced and deliberate. How could the image of the newspaper text be placed so that name "Troopergate" wasn't intended to be there twice ... specially with that phrase being directly related to Bill Clinton?<br><br>This ad was created this week in May of 2008. Why was text from December 2007 used? It seems like it had to be intentional.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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#361859 - 05/13/08 03:49 AM Re: I found the story [Re: garyW]
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Okay, I see where you are coming from. Point well taken.<br><br><br><br>
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