So Obama wants to distance himself from Rev Wright's comment that the US brought 9/11 on itself. Let me see bin Laden said that 9/11 was because of US foreign policy; Rev Wright said 9/11 was because of US foreign policy - hmmm seems pretty close to me, US foreign policy, US foreign policy, that's almost identical - hey! It's exactly the same! Let's get this straight, Obama wants to distance himself from the reasons for 9/11?<br><br>km<br><br>
Loc: Alexandria, VA
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>So Obama wants to distance himself from Rev Wright's comment that the US brought 9/11 on itself.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Is that assertion based on a specific comment from Mr. Obama? I just went to look and am having trouble finding where he directly addresses this particular comment from Mr. Wright -- do you have a link or something I may have missed?<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...
REVEREND WRIGHT: Yes, I did. I was trying to show how people- how the anger- and we felt anger. I felt anger. I felt hurt. I felt pain. In fact, September 11th, I was in Newark. September 11th, I was trapped in Newark 'cause when they shut down the air system I couldn't get back to Chicago. September 11th, I looked out the window and saw the second plane hit from my hotel window. Alright, I had members who lost loved ones both at the Pentagon and at the World Trade Center. So, I know the pain. And I had to preach to them Sunday. I had to preach. They came to church wanting to know where is God in this. And so, I had to show them using that Psalm 137, how the people who were carried away into slavery were very angry, very bitter, moved and in their anger from wanting revenge against the armies that had carried them away to slavery, to the babies. That Psalm ends up sayin' "Let's kill the baby-let's bash their heads against the stone." So, now you move from revolt and revulsion as to what has happened to you, to you want revenge. You move from anger with the military to taking it out on the innocents. You wanna kill babies. That's what's going on in Psalm 137. And that's exactly where we are. We want revenge. They wanted revenge. God doesn't wanna leave you there, however. God wants redemption. God wants wholeness. And that's the context, the biblical context I used to try to get people sitting again, in that sanctuary on that Sunday following 9/11, who wanted to know where is God in this? What is God saying? What is God saying? Because I want revenge.<br><br>REVEREND WRIGHT (SERMON TAPE): The people of faith have moved from the hatred of armed enemies, these soldiers who captured the king, those soldiers who slaughtered his son and put his eyes out, the soldiers who sacked the city, burned the towns, burned the temples, burned the towers, and moved from the hatred for armed enemies to the hatred of unarmed innocents, the babies, the babies . "Blessed are they who dash your baby's brains against a rock." And that my beloved is a dangerous place to be. Yet, that is where the people of faith are in 551 BC and that is where far too many people of faith are in 2001 AD. We have moved from the hatred of armed enemies to the hatred of unarmed innocents. We want revenge. We want paybacks and we don't care who gets hurt in the process.<br><br>[color:purple]I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday. Did anybody else see him or hear him? He was on Fox news. This is a white man and he was upsetting the Fox news commentators to no end. He pointed out. You see him John? A white man he pointed out -an Ambassador! He pointed out that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Mohammad was in fact true. America's chickens are coming home to roost! </font color=purple>We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arawak, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism! We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism! We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel. We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenagers and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard-working fathers. We bombed Gadafi's home and killed his child. "Blessed are they who bash your children's head against a rock!" We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to payback for the attack on our embassy. Killed hundreds of hard-working people; mothers and fathers who left home to go that day, not knowing that they would never get back home. We bombed Hiroshima! We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye! Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children after school, civilians - not soldiers - people just trying to make it day by day. [color:purple]We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and Black South Africans, and now we are indignant? Because the stuff we have done overseas has now been brought back into our own front yards! America's chickens are coming home to roost! Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred and terrorism begets terrorism. A White Ambassador said that y'all not a Black Militant. Not a Reverend who preaches about racism. An Ambassador whose eyes are wide open, and who's trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised-- </font color=purple><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
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the Rev. Wright also said that the American gov't introduced AIDS to kill minorities. that's just crazy talk.<br><br>the bottom line is that our American foreign policy DID contribute to the rationale used to by the 9/11 guys to carry out an attack on the USA. the Rev. Wright didn't say it in a way that was most truthful; rather, he said it in a theatrical manner that immediately turned off many Americans. he said it in a way that Obama wouldn't say it and thus he couldn't endorse the comments.<br><br><br>--<br>[color:red] Kansas Jayhawks -- 2008 National Champions </font color=red>
[color:blue]Is that assertion based on a specific comment from Mr. Obama?</font color=blue><br><br>That's how it was presented on BBC TV News but it's also in this report that Obama described as "incendiary" and "completely inexcusable" Rev Wright's comment in a sermon after 9/11 "that the US had brought the attacks on itself through its own foreign policy."<br><br>km<br><br><br><br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>So Obama wants to distance himself from Rev Wright's comment that the US brought 9/11 on itself<p><hr></blockquote><p>just to clarify, when Wright said that he wasn't saying it as Rev. Wright as the sound-bytes portray; rather, he was paraphrasing what an ambassador had said on Fox News in the previous day or so. it's unfortunate that even the BBC isn't getting that noted.<br><br><br>--<br>[color:red] Kansas Jayhawks -- 2008 National Champions </font color=red>
The clip they showed on TV was Rev Wright saying that the US can't visit terror on others and then complain when it's visited on them (or words to that effect) and I'd be worried about any president who thought he needed to be distance himself from that truth.<br><br>km<br><br>
Lots of people realize it's policy. So, if you were running for president of the United States of America you would support the other crap this guy was spitting out? Wow, you would be axing yourself right out of the race if you did. Obama is too smart for that. <br><br>
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