<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>... you would support the other crap this guy was spitting out? Wow, you would be axing yourself right out of the race if you did<p><hr></blockquote><p> I would support whatever I believed in and distance myself from what I didn't. Power is not worth having imo if it doesn't give you the right to act upon the truth. There are lots of other things you can do in life where you don't have to abandon your principles. <br><br>km<br><br>
Whether YOU believe it or not doesn't mean that Rev. Wright is Crazy.<br>It may shock you to know that many many many black people believe it.<br><br>[color:purple]"Wright repeating the canard heard often in black communities that the u.s. government spread HIV in those communities"</font color=purple><br><br>[color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
Loc: Pinellas Park, Florida
It isn't so much abandoning your principles as it is knowing your constituency. The US public does not perceive itself as being terrorist in nature. Yes, one may believe that our antagonistic foreign policies are perpetrating terror on those with whom we disagree, but saying so is political suicide. Israel has behaved in a really negative (terroristic) way towards the Palestinians over decades, but the Israeli populace will not acknowledge that reality. Same here in the US. To most of us, we're the "good guys." That may be a distorted viewpoint, but that is the way it is. To be politically viable, one must not betray one's own beliefs in order to get into a position to change the wrongs. Proposing major changes in our relationships with the rest of the world without declaring that our current policies are the cause of our troubles is what will work with the US public.<br><br>
[color:blue]That's exactly what Obama did.</font color=blue><br><br>Exactly. Truth doesn't matter because its power for power's sake. American lives don't matter when one can hang it in the White House. Doesn't matter how you prostituted yourself to get there and when do get there it doesn't matter what you're committed to doing. Just carry on like before - more wars, more retaliation it's alright for the political classes - they're not coming back in body bags. <br><br>km<br><br>
Loc: Alexandria, VA
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>If Obama agrees with some bits and disagrees with some others he should say so and let everyone know which is which.<p><hr></blockquote><p>In his speech after Wright's appearance at the Press Club, Obama was fairly specific about which of Wright's comments he found objectionable (or, at least, were the ones that finally tipped the scale) -- the ones concerning 9/11 weren't mentioned ...<br><br>But yeah, Obama's repudiation of Mr. Wright was more of a general separation from the man and his actions rather than a statement-by-statement critique ...<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...
My personal view, I could be wrong, is that he would have got more credit specifically endorsing Wright's 9/11 comments than trying to wriggle out of them. Notice that he tried to wriggle out of them and his ratings went down. If the US electorate want to be juvenile about it then they deserve to be treated like children and what we don't do with the kids is pander around just telling 'em what they want to hear. Sometimes you have tell 'em to wind in their necks, shut up and listen, or be grounded. That was Margaret Thatcher's style and the electorate never deprived her of power.<br><br>km<br><br><br>
Right. General separation is what you do with someone who is a distant associate that says all kinds of crazy things and the media wants to tie it all to you somehow. Obama was smart to break away from that mess of a man. <br><br>
_________________________ Well, until they make it right, I hope they never sleep at night. They better make some changes and do it soon. -Things Goin' On/Lynyrd Skynyrd
Loc: Alexandria, VA
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>My personal view, I could be wrong, is that he would have got more credit specifically endorsing Wright's 9/11 comments than trying to wriggle out of them.<p><hr></blockquote><p> <br><br>Well, again, I don't think he's addressed Wright's 9/11 comments specifically one way or the other, so I'm not sure it's fair to characterize him as trying to "wriggle out of them" specifically ...<br><br>His ratings were going to go down regardless of how he responded to Mr. Wrights comments -- he was either going to get criticized for not standing by his friend of 20 years, or criticized for not disassociating himself completely from the man ... as it was, he tried -- with relative success -- to walk the middle line between the two ...<br><br>Ideally, you're right -- a candidate should get credit for seriously exploring controversial points of view. Unfortunately, American politics won't stand for that kind of exploration very long before any serious discussion devolves into minute dissection of sound-bites ... sad, but that's the way things are currently. Obama is at least trying to take first steps in changing that atmosphere ...<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...
First of all:<br>Do you sound like Basil Fawlty when you make these passionate statements?<br><br>Secondly:<br>He got roasted over a spit for calling unfulfilled people "Bitter"<br>and for telling them that he understood why they felt as if it were necessary<br>to "Cling to Guns, or the Church in times of stress and disillusionment"<br><br>KRIKEY!<br>I can only imagine the ensuing lynching following the speech in which he says:<br><br>"You're all behaving like juveniles and you deserve to be treated like children, <br>so instead of pandering around or just telling you what you want to hear, we<br>demand that you all wind in your necks, shut up and listen, or be grounded!" <br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
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