Earlier in the campaign, one of NPR's campaign correspondents (somewhat hypocritically) was talking about the energy political reporters were dedicating to the Iowa caucuses. That reporter said he noticed that voters and supporters alike were talking about issues like health care, but were also spending a lot of time talking about issues like electability, candidate vetting, and other non-issues in terms of voters.<br><br>The correspondent was surprised and said (with a small sense of irony) that voters were beginning to talk like pundits.<br><br>That's totally true and you can tell in the way people talk. Why is it that people co-opt the language of spinsters and blowhards when they have interests to the contrary? If I have to hear about someone "throwing under the bus", "closing the deal", "appealing to superdelegates", I'd rather hear it from someone who's paid to lie to me than from regular people.<br><br>All we are doing by co-opting the language and the message of the punditocracy is feeding into it and throwing the campaign even further away from issues that actually matter in the election.<br><br>Want to see the results of what happens when people buy into pundits' BS? Look at our current president.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
I've co-opted the "throwing under the bus" phrase <br>from FattMatt specifically BECAUSE I found it so<br>HATEFUL. and when I use it, it's with all due contempt.<br><br>it simply escapes me what smilie to add to connote that <br><br>(I'm still searching for one "spitting on the ground"...<br>Maybe if MsBird runs across one, she'll save it for me. <br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
Very nearly to a tee, the mottos of this campaign and the ones that are parroted by pundits and voters alike are meant to deride a candidate. The only positive one I can think of is the "change" theme, but that thing has kind of run it's course.<br><br>For the most part, we have learned that it's not cool to be positive on your candidates of choice. This may be far fetched, but there is a wonderful scene in Ratatouille when the food critic writes the review that ends up (along with the health violation that follows) causing him to lose his job. In it, he talks about the seduction that negativity has on critics.<br><br>The same can certainly be said of pundits, mostly be said of campaign staffers, and now may also be said voters. It's uncool to be positive. This is the corrosiveness in our politics and it's up to us to stop it and start talking about things that matter.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>For the most part, we have learned that it's not cool to be positive on your candidates of choice.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br><br><br>--<br>[color:red] Kansas Jayhawks -- 2008 National Champions </font color=red>
well, i was being silly. as obvious as what you've said is to me, i don't think it's very obvious for most people. <br><br><br>--<br>[color:red] Kansas Jayhawks -- 2008 National Champions </font color=red>
...not contempt toward the candidate<br>contempt for the phrase itself.<br><br>Thrown under the bus has to be the ugliest phrase I've ever heard.<br>it'd just hideous from every aspect. that's why I used it in reference<br>to MoJo's rant about; "If only he'd denounce Rev Wright" knowing full <br>well that it was just a cheap way to force someone to cheapen himself,<br>...and that if & when it came to that, he'd switch to; "If only he had NOT<br>denounced Rev Wright." it's a lose/lose game and I wanted to expose it<br>for exactly what it was. Daylight is as deadly to them as any Vampire.<br><br>Another buzzword is "OUTRAGE"<br>that's why I used; "The OUTRAGE d'Jour!"<br><br>I was going to use it in reference to FSM's post concerning "VOTER REFORM"<br>I was going to title it "Is this a PRIVATE OUTRAGE?... or can everyone play?"<br>Simply put, it's just another manipulative tactic ...and you're Oh So Right!<br>It's dragging this election straight to hell.<br><br>If you want to discuss the unfair tactic of changing the rules after they're set FINE!<br>... just leave the FOX/ROVIAN SoundBytes, Bumper Stickers & Placards at home.<br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
<br><br>[color:blue] the language of spinsters...</font color=blue><br><br>sorry, but what bits of current political lingo have been provided by unmarried elderly women? ;)<br>I agree with you that some terms - like the bus thing - are pretty tedious.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
"Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht" (Humour means laughing despite of it)
Maybe they are - but they're still colourful, and that's why the punditocracy uses them. And since many of us admire how pundits can sum up and dumb down complex situations, we tend to imitate them, using the same turns of phrase. Pretty simple, really.<br><br>Personally, I have no trouble with the throwing under bus schtick. It's direct, crisply visual and conveys the essential information. In Obama's case, it mean he's finally taking steps to divest himself of unfortunate associations with this minister Wright, a man who has become a political liability in this increasingly desperate war of Demo-celebs.<br><br>[color:red]_________________________</font color=red><br>[color:white]Max </font color=white><br>
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