<br>just a few more words about the piggy-bank (Spatschwein) thing.<br><br>The pig has a decidedly different symbol character in German than in English, especially when one adds the ...."chen" to the end, which makes it sweeter and smaller. The pig stands for fertility and Good Luck as in "Glücksschweinchen" (Lucky Piglet), which explains why you find marzipan piglets - all nice and pink . around New Years. There is also the saying "Schwein gehabt...", which literally means "having had a pig", but by now, you know that it would refer to "having been lucky".<br><br>Unlike the English piggy-bank, which stems from an etymological development from ceramics (pyg) to pig, the German language has used the Sparschwein - the Saving Pig - since the early 13th century.<br><br>So, here we have an example of a translation not really hitting the same emotional tenor. ;)<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>
"Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht" (Humour means laughing despite of it)
Its from the NYT initially .... since so many people don't want to subscribe, I used the round-about way.<br>I'll mend my evil ways and use warning triangles in future. ;)<br><br>By the way, the opera was fantastisch!<br>It was a first rehearsal for Berlin school kids, who had done some work for the sets.<br>The premiere will be later this month and we'll go again.<br>The Magic Flute (Zauberflöte) is simply so much fun that even kids sit through it. Helps, of course, that it is sung in German instead of Italian, as so many operas are.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
"Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht" (Humour means laughing despite of it)
I know there had to be a bit lost in translation although the slitty eyes of the pink little piggy as he thinks of only money is undeniable. I can only picture a stupid young Republican voting against his own interests because of some logic that he will be rich some day so rich pigs need to have their taxes lowered. A petty view on my part but it is a hard notion to erase since it is mostly true.<br><br> I am pulling your curly tail just a bit.<br><br><br>
You went to the opera and I went to a professional soccer game. I took my daughter after she scored the winning goal in her game played in the rain. (Final 3-0)<br><br>Your opera was certainly a better call. Professional soccer is certainly better live than on TV but it still bores the socks off of me even though I am coaching it now. If it wasn't free tickets front and center I would never go. One score during the entire game. I love defense but the rules have to change to get the scoring up. I don't know what tweak they have to do to the off sides rule to open it up but something has to be changed. 12 year old girls put on a better show.<br><br> Colorado Rapids 1, New England Revolution 0 <br><br>ps: your opera link is busted.<br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by polymerase on 04/14/08 12:17 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Loc: Syracuse, NY
Yup. That's where I saw it first. But via righty web site that I frequent. Regardless, and more importantly, the words Obama uttered in SF were his own. He has single handedly now labeled himself as the elite, snobbish Democrat that the party has had a difficult time winning with in the past. This may be a more telling gaffe than his continuing support of the Rev. Wright.<br><br>
In the long run (and November is a long run away) I think the brouhaha that this is stirring up is more telling of how Republicans latch onto this since they have nothing but wedge issues to run on. Obama isn't really religious nor a card carrying NRA member so we shouldn't vote for him since he belittles both.<br><br>If Democrats allow religious and gun owning buffoonery to be the main political topic and not the ruined economy and the ruined treasury and the ruined military because of the Iraq War they deserve to lose. But that just isn't going to happen. Or we deserve to be called slit eyed fat pigs.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>This may be a more telling gaffe than his continuing support of the Rev. Wright.<p><hr></blockquote><p>fun Fact: Did you know that the Reverend Wright was inspired by JFK (ask not ...) he joined the Marines then also joined the Navy to become a hospital Corpsman? While George Bush was getting out of serving by hanging out in the Texas National Guard Corpsman Wright was getting praised for his bedside manner with President Lyndon Johnson.<br><br>Wright is on the right:<br><br><br><br>He really hates America.<br><br>sorry about the wide pic it was expandable and I did not realize how large it was. Fixed.<br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by polymerase on 04/14/08 02:53 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Loc: Alexandria, VA
You know it very well could be ...<br><br>If the right is able to keep hounding away at this, they may very well be able to reduce Obma to just that -- an elite, snobbish Democrat. This will be a good test to see if the voting public will still buy into the tired (yet so far effective) method of reducing the opponent into a sound-bite- and mantra-friendly two or three word label, which when repeated ad nauseam effectively drowns-out any intelligent debate about their platform ...<br><br>I'm hoping that the public reaction will be negative, or merely indifferent enough so this goes away and we can focus on real issues. Otherwise, all those disaffected voters Obama talked about are going to get even more bitter about the quality of their leaders and their options for President ...<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...
there's crappy audio of Obama making these comments. that's not very effective for a commercial to hammer away on Obama. on the other hand, at least there is actually video of McCain saying he wouldn't mind staying in Iraq for 1,000 or ten thousand years. video translates better to commercials. <br><br><br>--<br>[color:red] Kansas Jayhawks -- 2008 National Champions </font color=red>
Loc: Syracuse, NY
From The Politco. Twelve Reasons bitter is bad.<br><br>1. It lets Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) off the mat at a time when even some of her top supporters had begun to despair about her prospects. Clinton hit back hard on the campaign trail Saturday. And her campaign held a conference call where former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, a Pittsburgh native, described Obama’s remarks as “condescending and disappointing” and “undercutting his message of hope.”<br><br>2. If you are going to say something that makes you sound like a clueless liberal, don’t say it in San Francisco. Obama’s views might have been received very differently if he had expressed them in public to Pennsylvania voters, saying he understood and could alleviate their frustrations.<br><br>3. Some people actually use guns to hunt — not to compensate for a salary that’s less than a U.S. senator’s.<br><br>4. Some people cling to religion not because they are bitter but because they believe it, and because faith in God gives them purpose and comfort.<br><br>5. Some hard-working Americans find it insulting when rich elites explain away things dear to their hearts as desperation. It would be like a white politician telling blacks they cling to charismatic churches to compensate for their plight. And it vindicates centrist Democrats who have been arguing for a decade that their party has allowed itself to look culturally out of touch with the American mainstream.<br><br>6. It provides a handy excuse for people who were looking for a reason not to vote for Obama but don’t want to think of themselves as bigoted. It hurts Obama especially with the former Reagan Democrats, the culturally conservative, blue-collar workers who could be a promising voter group for him. It also antagonizes people who were concerned about his minister but might have given him the benefit of the doubt after his eloquent speech on race.<br><br>7. It gives the Clinton campaign new arguments for trying to recruit superdelegates, the Democratic elected officials and other insiders who get a vote on the nomination. A moderate politician from a swing district, for example, might not want to have to explain support for a candidate who is being hammered as a liberal. And Clinton’s agents can claim that for all the talk of her being divisive, Obama has provided plenty of fodder to energize Republicans.<br><br>8. It helps Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) frame a potential race against Obama, even though both of them have found support among independents. Now Republicans have a simple, easily repeated line of attack to use against Obama as an out-of-touch snob, as they had with Sen. John F. Kerry after he blundered by commenting about military funding, “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.”<br><br>9. The comments play directly into an already-established narrative about his candidacy. Clinton supporters have been arguing that Obama has limited appeal beyond upscale Democrats — the so-called latte liberals. You can’t win red states if people there don’t like you. “Elites need to understand that middle-class Americans view values and culture as more important than mere trickery,” said Paul Begala, a Clinton backer. “Democrats have to respect their values and reflect their values, not condescend to them as if they were children who’ve been bamboozled.”<br><br>10. The timing is terrible. With the Pennsylvania primary nine days off, late-deciding voters are starting to tune in. Obama and Clinton are scheduled to appear separately on CNN on Sunday for a forum on, of all topics, faith and values. And ABC News is staging a Clinton-Obama debate in Philadelphia on Wednesday. So Clinton has the maximum opportunity to keep a spotlight on the issue. Besides sex, little drives the news and opinion industry more than race, religion, culture and class. So as far as chances the chattering-class will perpetuate the issue, Obama has hit the jackpot.<br><br>11. The story did not have its roots in right-wing or conservative circles. It was published — and aggressively promoted — by The Huffington Post, a liberally oriented organization that was Obama’s outlet of choice when he wanted to release a personal statement distancing himself from some comments by the Rev. Wright.<br><br>12. It undermines Democratic congressional candidates who had thought that Obama would make a stronger top for the ticket than Clinton. Already, Republican House candidates are challenging their Democratic opponents to renounce or embrace Obama’s remarks. Ken Spain, press secretary for the National Republican Congressional Committee, said: “There is a myth being perpetuated by Democrats and even some in the media that an Obama candidacy would somehow be better for their chances down ballot. But we don’t believe that is the case.”<br><br>
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