True enough. There can come a time when the fence meant to keep the rabble out becomes the device by which the slaves are kept penned in. I'd be keeping an eye out for yet more shredding of your fabulous constitution. No doubt some of the more wary & feisty among you are already stockpiling weapons in advance of the possibility of a unilateral declaration of martial law 'for the good of all.'<br><br>We're rushing into some strange times, after all.<br><br>[color:red]_________________________</font color=red><br>[color:white]Max </font color=white><br>
I am serious. Whether or not I'm smart is something I'll leave to wiser folks to answer. I don't care either way as it makes no difference in either of our lives. But I am concerned that BushCo has steadily been working away at the precious supports to previously inalienable rights and freedoms. It's taken years but they're still at it. They get away with it because they appeal to American patriotism. Alas, that can be a terrible smokescreen.<br><br>When state security becomes the be all and end all, you have to start worrying about who's minding the store and what's really going on. Generally speaking, fascists don't announce their true nature until they're quite comfortable that there's no one left to mount a truly effective opposition.<br><br>[color:red]_________________________</font color=red><br>[color:white]Max </font color=white><br>
Generally speaking, we change the Party in Control every four to six years. That obvious point aside, do you really believe that the "fence," or "wall," as you understand (or, obviously don't) is meant to be some kind of weird trap to keep . . . I'm just out of taffy to stretch around your premise.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:white]xx</font color=white>[color:blue]I always deserve it. Really.</font color=blue><br><br>
_________________________ I always deserve it. Really.
BINGO!<br><br>the other day when I mentioned "PinHead Inc. having rekindled the Cold(Forever)War"<br>on a different forum far, far away, the most polite reply had been:<br><br>"In some town in Texas, the Village Idiot had gone missing"<br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
<br>What do you have against walls?<br>They are wonderful screens for graffiti, can hide unsightly neighbourhoods, keep the riff-raff out/in, and if they get old enough, can become superb tourist magnets.<br>I'd say, give it a try.<br><br><br><br><br>
"Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht" (Humour means laughing despite of it)
George Carlin knows who "they" are and who "they" want to keep… in and ignorant!<br><br><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AMqJvhmD5Yg&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AMqJvhmD5Yg&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br><br>
Candidates past votes on the Wall!<br><br>Feb 22 - Eleven days before Texans, and voters in three other states head to the polls, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton participated in a CNN and Univision debate in Austin.<br>Immigration was a key issue, as it is to many Texans. Both candidates seemed to alter their positions in Texas last night on the border fence. Both Clinton and Obama said they do not support a border fence. But they both voted for it in the Senate last year.<br><br>To be fair, McCain also voted for the Secure Fence Act.<br><br>Specifically:<br>Clinton voted for an immigration overhaul bill in 2006 that would have legalized millions of immigrants in the U.S. She also supported a bill to create 700 miles of border fencing and co-sponsored a bill to help qualifying illegal immigrants pay in-state college tuition and eventually gain permanent status. She backed a proposal that would have legalized some farm workers. <br><br>Obama voted for the Senate immigration overhaul bill to strengthen border controls, create a guest-worker program and legalize millions of foreign workers here now. Obama also backed the Secure Fence Act. He co-sponsored a bill to allow states to offer illegal immigrants in-state tuition. <br><br>In 2006, McCain co-sponsored the Senate immigration bill that would have legalized millions of immigrants in the U.S., strengthened border control and created a guest-worker program. McCain says he recognizes the economic value of immigrant workers, and so he backs what he calls a "sensible" guest-worker program for workers who are in the country without legal status. McCain calls for strengthening penalties for those who hire undocumented immigrants. <br><br>Which presidential candidates voted for Real ID? <br>All of them who were members of Congress at the time voted for Real ID except Rep. Ron Paul, a Republican. The vote in Congress was overwhelmingly in favor of the proposal, part of a broader government spending and tsunami relief bill that was approved unanimously by the Senate and by a vote of 368 to 58 in the House of Representatives. Sens. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John McCain voted for it. <br><br>Which states have rejected Real ID?<br>Residents of the five states--Maine, South Carolina, Montana, Oklahoma, and New Hampshire--that have firmly rejected Real ID. Fifteen states and the District of Columbia have not decided yet, meaning they could fall into this category too. <br><br><br><br><br><br>
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