i had to look her up as well. but, i am a youngster approaching 40 and i wasn't even alive when she first started making news. speaking of news, i think the lack of atheist voices in our nation's recent past is more a reflection of the tightly controlled media back then and the limited access someone like Madeline Murray O'Hare had other than when something big was happening (e.g., her Supreme Court case).<br><br>
I'm not that much older than you, but apparently I know about her because she was based here in Texas. The whole case, her family's murder and all, was front page stuff when it finally broke. I didn't realize she was such a State-centric personality. We have so many, it's hard to keep track. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:white]xx</font color=white>[color:blue]I always deserve it. Really.</font color=blue><br><br>
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Lea's right. She was very vocal, but it wasn't just in local news. She is THE one who caused the Supreme Court to rule on religion in schools. All those people -- nationwide -- complaining that they can't even say a prayer before a football game or carve the Ten Commandments in stone around the frieze of the school cafeteria owe their hand-wringing to Madeleine Murray O'Hare. She may have lived in Texas, but she was known coast-to-coast. Hers was a name as instantly recognizable as Abby Hoffman or Patty Hearst, or the Black Panthers. <br><br>Shooshie<br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]Pictures and things</font color=green>
i guess my point went beyond the Supreme Court case or the strange circumstances surrounding her death. How likely were her opinions and beliefs (or lack thereof) likely to be heard by the public on any kind of regular basis outside of the big news making court case? i have no doubt that pockets of atheist crowds here and there could find a specialized local artsy newspaper or something, but i wonder about the masses.<br><br>fwiw, i recognize and have knowledge of all of the people and groups you name and could probably write part of a wikipedia article on each, but i hadn't heard of Madeline until today. she did die when i was in elementary school so i was obviously not paying attention to atheist messages as i was still struggling to figure out what half the Catholic prayers i was being forced to memorize meant. <br><br>on a side note, i went to a KU versus Oklahoma football game down in Norman back in 1996 or so and before the game started the had everyone bow their heads so that a prayer could be said. it freaked me out given that this is a public institution and they were asking everyone to participate. then again, our congress says a prayer so i guess i shouldn't have expected any less in Oklahoma. <br><br>
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He is, to say the least, controversial. I do not appreciate his rants on Christianity. But to each his own. If I don't want to be afflicted by his pov I can just choose not to listen to him. Freedom means being able to express one's view. Regardless of whether one is a pompous ass. <br><br>
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