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#353912 - 03/28/08 03:53 PM Obama - Looking good...
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Or at least that is the opinion of the women of “The View” who said they thought Obama is “Very Sexy Looking.”<br>I’ll bet Lea is going to barf over that one.<br><br>Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey will endorse Obama Today.<br><br>Hillary Clinton’s negativity takes a toll.<br>According to an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll [color:blue]48% of Americans hold a negative view of Clinton as compared to 32% for Obama.</font color=blue><br><br>Looks like Obama has weather the Rev. Wright debacle.<br>According to the latest Gallup poll [color:blue]48% of Demcratic voters prefer Obama as compared to 44% in favor of Clinton.</font color=blue><br>That reverses the trend right after the Rev. Wright revelation.<br><br>The latest Pew Research poll shows that if a nationwide Democratic primary were held today, [color:blue]49% of Democrats would vote for Obama; 39% would vote for Clinton.</font color=blue><br><br>Kudos to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.<br>She refused to back down after 20 of Hillary’s big money supporters threatened to withdraw support from Democrats in Congress because Pelosi said the superdelegates should follow the lead of pledged delegates.<br><br>Clinton initially supported the letter from her 20 fat cats to Pelosi.<br>Now she insists that the “overture” was an independent effort.<br><br>By the way, if you would like to thank Pelosi, you can sign a petition at moveon.org.<br><br>
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#353913 - 03/28/08 04:30 PM but then ...... [Re: Clark]
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[color:blue]Pelosi said the superdelegates should follow the lead of pledged delegates.</font color=blue><br><br>... wouldn't Ted Kennedy have had to remain silent?<br><br><br><br><br>
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#353914 - 03/28/08 04:39 PM Re: but then ...... [Re: eckhard]
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Kennedy is a Massachusetts super delegate. The Massachusetts Democratic primary was proportional. <br><br>Clinton 56%<br>Obama 41%. <br><br>Clinton received 55 delegates and Obama 38. At least 40% of the superdelegates or 11 of the 28 should vote for Obama. Kennedy is one of those eleven. He votes for me. He can also open his mouth anytime he wants to.<br><br><br><br><br>

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#353915 - 03/28/08 04:39 PM Re: but then ...... [Re: eckhard]
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Pelosi was referring to House members who can look at their own congressional district numbers for guidance. Senators have a little bit more leeway since their states are going to be sending delegates pledged to both candidates.<br><br>If you were to award Senatorial superdelegates based on who took each state as Sen. Clinton argues sometimes when she brings up Kennedy and Kerry, it would very much hurt Sen. Clinton.<br><br>The relieving thing about the Obama campaign is that they don't have a new theory every day as to what or why the superdelegates should vote.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
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#353916 - 03/28/08 05:12 PM Re: Obama - Looking good... [Re: Clark]
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As much as the media has a love for the numbers, I really do not think that they matter right now. What is most important are the positions that the candidates are staking out for themselves, their records on those issues, and the character of the campaign that they are all running.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
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#353917 - 03/28/08 05:48 PM Re: Obama - Looking good... [Re: newkojak]
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I'm the one who loves stats. <br>I search the internet for that stuff.<br>Although it may not look important, I like that it appears Obama has survived the Rev Wright crisis.<br>Now there is an even newer Gallup poll that shows Obama leading Clinton 50% to 42%.<br>Take a look at the following graph. <br>After ABC News reported on Rev. Wright's semon, Obama's ratings began to fall.<br>On the day of Obama's Perfect Union speech, Clinton had gone ahead of Obama by 49% to 42%.<br>After the speech Obama started climbing back and now has a considerable lead over Clinton.<br><br><br><br><br>
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#353918 - 03/28/08 05:55 PM Re: Obama - Looking good... [Re: Clark]
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I suppose it is an interest for people who love crunching numbers and looking at trends. I fully admit to that as well. (I probably check that goofy Gallup junk as much as you do. ) I just hate how it is used to create news. If I hear another news anchor use the word "momentum" about anything other than Newtonian physics, my TV and I are going to create a domestic disturbance.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
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#353919 - 03/28/08 06:00 PM Re: but then ...... [Re: eckhard]
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Just like Poly says.<br>If the Superdelegates vote the way their constituents do, then Obama wins.<br>As long as 11 Massachusetts superdelegates vote for Obama, he wins.<br><br><br><br><br>
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#353920 - 03/28/08 10:07 PM Re: Obama - Looking good... [Re: Clark]
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You didn't hear this from me, but...<br><br>Gallup 3/25-27/08 - Obama 50% (+2), Clinton 42% (-2) Trending upwards despite his so-called "worst week ever."<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
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#353921 - 03/28/08 10:29 PM Re: Obama - Looking good... [Re: newkojak]
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Thank you.<br><br><br><br>
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