Has anyone else heard of this? This is the third time I've come across things specifically referencing the creation of the North American Union and its currency, the Amero, but it's the first time I've seen any documentation of it. And of course, other things mentioned in the video I've seen countless times, like the RFID chip, and that sort of thing.<br><br>What kind of world are we creating here? Or... have we already created it? <br><br><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vuBo4E77ZXo&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vuBo4E77ZXo&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br><br><br>So, I was wondering how they'd implement the Amero. No self-respecting American would accept it as currency. The answer? Make people hate the dollar. Inflate it to the point that it is worthless and meaningless, such that people's savings are wiped out, and people will be begging for something new. We've already got people accepting money from the government in the form of "tax rebates" or "stimulus packages." They've already created an artificial recession based totally on the price of oil. The price of oil is not controlled by supply and demand, but by a market board similar to the stock market or commodities market, where it can be controlled literally from the top, down. The beginnings of this were seen in California in 2000-2001, when they were literally shutting off a valve, preventing the gas from flowing to the electric companies, and causing 'rolling blackouts'. They were not real, but artificially created. Enron was busted for doing this. The courts forced them to pay back billions to California. (but conveniently, not before California governor Gray Davis was forced out for "mismanagement" of energy funds -- not his fault -- and Arnold was put in as his replacement)<br><br>If they manage to knock the dollar down far enough, and our current spending on wars could very well do the trick, then the dollar will fall until it's worthless. People will be begging for a new currency that means something. Then... give them the Amero. <br><br>Possible. I want to know more about this, though. Does anyone know more about the North American Union, which was allegedly created by Dubya in 2005?<br><br>Shooshie<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]Pictures and things</font color=green>
Zeitgeist - The Movie - YouTUBE13 Videos<br><br>http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/<br>Interactive transcript - http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript<br>Zeitgeist was created as a non-profit filmiac expression to inspire people to start looking at the world from a more critical perspective and to understand that very often things are not what the population at large think they are. The information in Zeitgeist was established over a year long period of research and the current Source page on this site lists the basic sources used / referenced. Soon, an Interactive Transcript will be online with detailed footnotes and links so exact sources and further research can be relayed.<br><br>Though many different frauds are addressed in Zeitgeist, at the present time the most important issue is exposing 9/11 and thus exposing government sponsored Terrorism. If we do not, they will erode all of our civil liberties and an oppressive, military style, surveillance based Police State will take firm root.<br><br>On Aug. 4th 2007, the Senate passed the Bush backed 'spy bill', which preserves & expands the illegal domestic spying program. I hope people are educated enough by this time to know that such legislations have nothing to do with Terrorism, and everything to do with monitoring and controlling American dissent.<br><br>Furthermore, on May 9 2007, Bush signed the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, which gives Bush near full dictatorial powers in the event of a "National Emergency". Bush, and the people he works for, will be able to do ANYTHING they want if a "National Emergency" is deemed. All they need is a "New 9/11". The US Constitution will no longer be applicable.<br><br>In regards to this Directive, Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan administration, has come out and said he feels the White House is preparing to STAGE A NEW 9/11 and the executive order is designed to capitalize on such an attack, specifically to impose Martial Law and Invade Iran.<br><br>IN ORDER TO STOP MARTIAL LAW AND THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE US CONSTITUTION, WE MUST STOP ANOTHER FALSE FLAG ATTACK. THE FIRST STEP IS TO EXPOSE THE 9/11 FRAUD. THIS IS THE EVENT THAT IS BEING USED TO JUSTIFY THE DEVELOPING POLICE STATE, NOT TO MENTION WORLDWIDE OPPRESSION.<br><br>It's important to point out that there is a tendency to simply disbelieve things that are counter to our understanding, without the necessary research performed. However, if one takes the time to read the sources provided, they will find that what is being presented is based on documented evidence. Any corrections, clarifications & further points regarding the film are found on http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/.<br><br>"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing tactics, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." - Mark Twain<br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
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i didn't watch the video linked, but i have read a little about the Amero previously . . . and i thought we discussed it here, but i can't find it. hmmm.<br><br>anyway, i think college sports have sort of paved the way. we used to have the big 8 and then we shifted to the big 12. the SEC has grown into a super conference as well. other conferences are growing, too. smaller conferences are more costly and less competitive. i don't think it's any surprise that the countries in Europe formed a union to better position the region -- and it's working as the Euro has nearly doubled the value of the dollar and some oil producing countries are adopting the Euro as their trading denomination (e.g., Iran). this further hurts the dollar . . . and it's hard to paint Iran as being partners with folks here trying to devalue the dollar, fwiw. i don't think it's inconceivable to think that an Amero is being considered and even initiatives like NAFTA start to pave the way. maybe i don't know enough about it, but it certainly seems like something we'll need to do if we want to remain competitive into the future as a single country is not going to be very competitive against mega countries in the information age.<br><br>
<br>I agree... the link you posted gives the "Other Side of the Coin"<br>it's not so much about the Amero as a monitary unit per se'<br>as it is about GLOBALIZATION which again has sinister <br>implications... "The New World Order" is much too<br>impersonal & dispassionate to be embraced.<br><br>HOWEVER...<br><br>...it's still but a fragment of the whole<br>to which I've left you the link to.<br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
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<br>The difference with such a NA market and the EU would be the complete imbalance.<br>With a tenth the US population and so many natural resources, Canada is sitting duck for Uncle Sam, and as a labour pool, Mexico is just great. Leaves the USA to wield the big stick and generate that great sucking noise .....<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
"Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht" (Humour means laughing despite of it)
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>and as a labour pool, Mexico is just great<p><hr></blockquote><p>a big employer here in Michigan already has realized this as they left us a few years ago to move to Mexico. <br><br>
It appears that most of the talk about the North American Union is just that: talk. And it does not appear to be serious talk among policy makers. I have yet to find anything about Dubya's having signed an agreement to dissolve the USA and create the NAU, as referenced in the video I posted, but I'm still looking. It says nothing about that in this Wikipedia article on the North American Union and the Amero. In fact, it says there is no Amero, and that the international unions on this continent are at this point just academic studies. Nothing has reached a policy level, and may never do so. But... at one time the European Union and the Euro were also academic studies with no plans for following through with policy. And who can believe that so many countries would adopt it? So, we must consider it to be a possibility in North America, too. Would it be a bad thing? I have no idea. If it dissolved rights, dissolved the effects of our local constitutions, then it would be a bad thing. Definitely. But such a union doesn't have to do that. It would be nice to be able to travel between our countries without all the inspections and passports, and those stupid US border guards who act like everyone is guilty of SOMETHING. (Canadian guards were always the opposite... sort of like "go on through. We trust you.")<br><br>Anyway, I think the video, as usual, is much ado about very little. Not that we should ignore it, but just that it's not an issue at this time. And with May, 2008 rapidly approaching, I have yet to hear a single word about any requirement to carry a federal ID card. More BS? I don't know. They probably just put what they needed on my driver's license. Anyway, I was just curious if anyone knew anything about all this. Now that I know a little more, I'm not terribly concerned. <br><br>Shooshie<br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]Pictures and things</font color=green>
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