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#352017 - 03/19/08 06:10 PM Re: because of Ashley.... [Re: eckhard]
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the quote you're highlighting:<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy - particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.<p><hr></blockquote><p>makes me cringe, too. i hate a candidate who admits imperfection. <br><br>go bush! <br><br>

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#352018 - 03/19/08 06:11 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: OSXaddict]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Listening to the speech, it didn't sound like he embraced what the preacher had said. In fact he denounced it.<p><hr></blockquote><p>But then he offered up an explanation for Wright, to give "nuance" and "context" for Wrights racist views, as if we should excuse bigotry based on the "context" of how that person was raised. If Obama had a problem with these views, if he denounces these views, why stay in that environment for 20 years? Why expose your children to those types of wild-eyed views for 20 years? These are the questions I had when watching the speech yesterday. <br><br>***********************<br>I got nothin'
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#352019 - 03/19/08 06:13 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: OSXaddict]
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I certainly do not want to dwell in the past. But we can't simply forget it, because if we do we will misunderstand the present and screw up the future. <br><br>[color:red]&#63743;</font color=red> [color:orange]&#63743;</font color=orange> [color:yellow]&#63743;</font color=yellow> [color:green]&#63743;</font color=green> [color:blue]&#63743;</font color=blue> [color:purple]&#63743;</font color=purple>
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#352020 - 03/19/08 06:16 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: MattMac112]
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To quote the guy who, I assume, is your favorite president. "There you go again." To explain and contextualize is not to excuse. Why stay in that environment for 20 years? I wonder if you've actually rad or listened to the speech.<br><br>[color:red]&#63743;</font color=red> [color:orange]&#63743;</font color=orange> [color:yellow]&#63743;</font color=yellow> [color:green]&#63743;</font color=green> [color:blue]&#63743;</font color=blue> [color:purple]&#63743;</font color=purple>
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#352021 - 03/19/08 06:17 PM Re: because of Ashley.... [Re: FSM]
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<br><br>... nah, just an unnecessary bit of coy self-depreciation that's kind of out of place.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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#352022 - 03/19/08 06:17 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: yoyo52]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> Do you really and truly think that all that history will simply disappear because you want it to?<p><hr></blockquote><p>And as much as you would like it to be so, there aren't masses of Rosa Parks sitting at the back of busses in America in 2008. Yes, you still have your Archie Bunkers in this country. Until recently, one was preaching at Trinity United Church of Christ on the southside of Chicago. <br><br>***********************<br>I got nothin'
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#352023 - 03/19/08 06:18 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: yoyo52]
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Sorry, I didn't mean to say Forget it. I meant move on. We should never forget history.<br><br>my photos
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#352024 - 03/19/08 06:19 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: yoyo52]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> wonder if you've actually rad or listened to the speech.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Yep. Sure did. Watched it live. Watched it again last night. Watched it again this morning. Still, those are the questions I have. <br><br>***********************<br>I got nothin'
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#352025 - 03/19/08 06:27 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: OSXaddict]
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For a person who was going to scadoodle out of here, you sure have a lot to say.<br><br>
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#352026 - 03/19/08 06:34 PM Re: "A More Perfect Union" - Sen. Obama's speech [Re: Clark]
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Sorry, is that a bad thing?<br><br>I'm on spring break at school right now. I haven't been posting as much here any more but wanted to put my 2 cents in.<br><br>I'll head on out then...<br><br>my photos
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