<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>you don't really need to lock it either, just clicking off, then clicking back into it reveals the contents.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Same here, but double click any item on the right, and to view the passwords you need to check mark Password and put in the keychain password or all you can see are usernames. In 10.5 you can't get to the passwords, but in 10.4 you can.<br><br>I'll try the change from DVD thing in 10.4 to see if that affects things. If it doesn't change the keychain password then none of this would work in 10.4 either a it's relying on already knowing the login.keychain password.<br><br>------> JD's Trivia game<br><br>------> MCF-MM Trivia game

Nope, FileVault (along with TrueCrypt, BitLocker, probably others) can also be broken by transporting the RAM from one machine to another and extracting the private key.<br><br>http://www.news.com/2300-1029_3-6230933-1.html<br><br>Play World of Warcraft, for free!