yoyo52 Nothing comes of nothing.
Registered: 05/25/01
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Loc: PA, USA
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lanovami This space for rent
Registered: 05/02/05
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Loc: 東京都
You know this is just a thought that I just thunk and haven't really examined yet, but maybe the world is safer with two superpowers to offset each other. Keeps one from getting delusions of grandeur ala, you know, the US of A.<br><br>I realize the world is geopolitical scene is much more complicated than it was even during the Cold War; but that is the thought that came to the surface when I was reading your link.<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
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Yeah well people can't just go around creating States by UDI - that's where Rhodesia and Israel went wrong. Alright then, if anyone can be a state, we're a state, the keymakers and our back garden, and some of the old codger next door's garden as well.<br><br>km<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Yeah well people can't just go around creating States by UDI <p><hr></blockquote><p>The US did. <br><br>Ya just need the means to defend the action.<br><br>Old farts, the hidden caulk of civilization. Jim Atkinson<br><br>
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yoyo52 Nothing comes of nothing.
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The Cold War was not such a peachy keen time either. Think Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, Nicaragua, Cuba, Grenada (that was a valiant defense of the "free world," don't you know--so Mon"nuke-em-all"gol says), El Salvador, The Dominican Republic (1965 . . . no one even remembers this one). Not to mention super-power fomented "civil wars" in almost every country in Africa.<br><br>[color:red]</font color=red> [color:orange]</font color=orange> [color:yellow]</font color=yellow> [color:green]</font color=green> [color:blue]</font color=blue> [color:purple]</font color=purple>
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mojo_jojo
I invented modding!
Registered: 04/25/02
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Loc: Syracuse, NY
Most leftists feel the same way. Similar to the White guilt complex over Obama, many on the left suffer from similar angst over freedom's that the USA exemplifies. Leftist's can't help it. Hand wringing and mental constipation are two other signals that one might be a loon. <br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The US did.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I like it but that was a mistake - and look what happened? Everything went fine until Dubya came along and then you lot started thinking it was alright to go around torturing people. That proved beyond doubt that you'd still be better off under the yoke of the British Crown where that kind of thing is not allowed.<br><br>km<br><br>
lanovami This space for rent
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You are starting to sound like a caricature of yourself. <br><br>I am the least constipated person I know; I'm in and out of the stall. Don't know about hand wringing (ala Matt), but I do pick my callouses too much. <br><br>Anyway, my numero uno problem is Iraq. Do you feel good about what went on over there and what is going on over there? Thousands of people killed and US resources and lives wasted for an experiment that turned everyone against us? We are not the model you think or say we are (except to close minded closet pundits I guess). I live in that outside world that you have a picture of in your mind and talk to British, French, Japanese, Koreans, etc everyday, and if I ask them to list the things the US exemplifies, freedom is at the bottom of a very exhaustive, pessimistic list. But who are they to judge right?<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
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MicMeister
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Registered: 12/15/07
Posts: 1331
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You must be joking!<br><br>AFAIK, the only regions in the world the US has managed to stabilize and help stabilize and install freedom are Europe, Japan and South Korea thus far, although with very huge amount of help from the nations themselves in these regions. And well, now it almost seems as they are willing de-stabilize Europe a bit.<br><br>Rest of the world: inserting coups and planting and propping up right-wing dictators all over South America, keeping the Middle-East in more or less permanent state of chaos directly and indirectly. Not to mention the planting and propping up dictatorships in the region as well. Continuing the mess what is also known as South-East Asia after the French. And funding civil wars against the Soviet funded sides in Africa.<br><br>And some still wonder why the US can be disliked and even hated in so many regions of the world. I don't, but rather understand why some would oppose. And as easy as it would be to label me as anti-American, don't bother, I'm really not that, but rather anti-US-foreign policies especially outside of Europe.<br><br>Having said all that, I'm not exactly keen on Russia and mr. Putin either. It's kinda little too close to Finland, too.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by MicMeister on 02/23/08 04:48 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>