have you guys seen this documentary on Sundance?<br><br>it's a journey through the US's use extraordinary rendition. it declares the US as the capital of torture.<br> <br>this really displays the entire disgusting thing. why our leaders are still free is beyond me. <br><br>"if you wish to fear nothing, consider that everything is to be feared." <br><br>[color:red]Libertarian Communist</font color=red>
Haven't seen any documentaries but then again I don't need to. Quite a few of us have been objecting for some time to rendition flights landing on British soil but Condi, Blair and Jack Straw all lied about it and denied that they were taking place with the favourite old device of saying there was "no evidence" of their existence. Now that Condi has come clean and admitted it we've got the government scrambling around looking for excuses and trying to make out that their previous denials were made in good faith. It's funny how we all knew about the flights but neither the British nor US Governments did when it was they who organised them.<br><br>km<br><br>
i am with you. i was not in doubt. this documentary put lots of faces i've never seen before on it. i also mentioned it for anyone who may need to see it, who may, unlike you or i, not have seen how grotesque this is and that America has not only lost credibility as a leader but it viewed as the epicenter of torture.<br><br>with mccaine's hypocritical positioning on the recent torture bill, as US government official who was tortured, we have noting to stand on now at all, *if* mccaine waas the last "public" straw, he folded. --it one way to look at it, ad every vantage point should be considered.<br><br>unfortunately for everyone, i'm afraid nontraditional venues of justice are already in play.<br><br>what's next? mb we need a "lawyers for political justice" protest marches.<br><br>"if you wish to fear nothing, consider that everything is to be feared." <br><br>[color:red]Libertarian Communist</font color=red>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>mccaine's hypocritical positioning on the recent torture bill<p><hr></blockquote><p> McCain had better watch his lip - the only reason we've let Dubya off is because he's no longer important but the next time someone tries to use us to promote torture we're gonna have them in court - traditional. <br><br>km<br><br>
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