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#346062 - 02/20/08 11:04 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: MattMac112]
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Oh snap!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:white]xx</font color=white>[color:blue]I always deserve it. Really.</font color=blue><br><br>
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#346063 - 02/20/08 11:09 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: MattMac112]
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This is your excuse for criticism? Nit picking the way she (or anyone, Obama related or otherwise) puts a few words. Give me a break. You must have something better on offer? And even if there were something there worth criticizing, what does what she said have to do with race or her husband's accomplishments? She was talking about the country.<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
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#346064 - 02/20/08 11:20 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: MattMac112]
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And rather than quote the entire comment you select only a potion of it. What she said, and what obviously wasn't said clearly, in the context of her complete statement is referring to what she's seeing with people joining the campaign and mobilizing politically. <br><br>It's hard to believe we have to go through this again where every out-of-context or misspoken statement becomes a mantra for the right to prove how much a United States Senator and his wife really hate America. Deja vu all over again. <br><br><br>
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#346065 - 02/20/08 11:33 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: garyW]
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Even with the blurb itself without context, it was still pretty hard to misconstrue. Impossible really.<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
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#346066 - 02/21/08 03:08 AM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: garyW]
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How about now, Mrs. Obama? <br><br><blockquote>Ann Curry: "Good morning, Mr. President, and Mrs. Bush. You know, even your critics, Mr. Bush, say that you have had the greatest impact on Africa than any president in US history. You have fought for funding and saved more than a--more than million lives, from malaria and from AIDS."</blockquote><br><br>Proud / not proud?<br><br>***********************<br>
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#346067 - 02/21/08 06:17 AM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: MattMac112]
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I didn't click your link, but there are a few (and far between) kudos I'll give Bush. His way stepped up aid to Africa, and having so many minorities in his cabinet (too bad they were as slimy as the rest of them, though.)<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
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#346068 - 02/21/08 04:34 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: lanovami]
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<br>While the sock twins are splitting hairs over timing:<br><br>It would have come across a bit more sincere<br>BEFORE they discovered that vast oil reserve. <br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
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#346069 - 02/21/08 05:20 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: MattMac112]
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i think McCain has much bigger problems right now than to worry about trying to parse Mrs. Obama's words into some effective campaign strategy. right wing blogs can go crazy with this because they have little else, but in the grand scheme of things this is tiny compared to what McCain is now dealing with.<br><br>EDIT: but i also notice that you posted something positive about Bush from the mainstream media. use them when the help and then wail about them the rest of the time. <br><br>

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#346070 - 02/21/08 06:01 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: Lea]
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Speaking of hope, there's an incredibly stupid column by Cal Thomas about hope in today's paper (it probably came out a while ago, but my local paper publishes at its own pace . Here's how it begins:<br><br>"Hope is a dangerous thing," s...g with despair.<br><br>If you follow out the logic of hope being dangerous, then this gentleman, who is a Baptist minister, is also suggesting that believers shouldn't believe because, after all, what if the belief turns out to be misplaced. By implication he's also suggesting that we ought not to fall in love because to do so is obviously to leave ourselves open to disappointment and suffering. And surely we ought to abort all fetuses because children are so much objects of hope--if nothing else of hope that there will be a future, period.<br><br>But then the real purpose of the column is to argue that Obama is not someone we ought to even consider a good choice because he offers ungrounded hope: [color:blue]The "hope" being sold by Obama and his true believers is misplaced. Obama cannot deliver; he cannot save; he cannot improve individual circumstances by redistributing wealth and talking to America's dictatorial enemies. He is selling snake oil.</font color=blue><br><br>That may be true, or not. But to introduce the whole business with the idea that we ought not to hope . . . what a douche bag of an article!<br><br>[color:red]&#63743;</font color=red> [color:orange]&#63743;</font color=orange> [color:yellow]&#63743;</font color=yellow> [color:green]&#63743;</font color=green> [color:blue]&#63743;</font color=blue> [color:purple]&#63743;</font color=purple>
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#346071 - 02/21/08 06:57 PM Re: Let's hope.. [Re: FSM]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>EDIT: but i also notice that you posted something positive about Bush from the mainstream media.<p><hr></blockquote><p>And look what happened. A fscking total lunar eclipse! <br><br>***********************<br>
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