Firstly, I think if you look at the viewership numbers you would find that my not watching the debates is what most other Americans did tonight and every other debate night. <br><br>Secondly, both Clinton and Obama have core beliefs that I am totally opposed to, so I don't know how them articulating those points and arguing the fine points of those beliefs would be of any benefit to me. <br><br>Thirdly, whatever the party affiliation, they're all a bunch of phonies anyway, and the best way to find out what they believe and what they will actually do is to look at their record of what they have done, how they have handled various situations, and what interest groups they are tied to.<br><br>GBR (OFI)
"IF that happens it could synch a Dem victory becasue they'd draw from the GOPmore than the Dem side."<br><br>(I'll take my editor hat off and ignore your typos and misspelling)<br><br>Or conservative Republicans will pull the lever (a figure of speech these days!) for McCain while holding their nose, and McCain's appeal to moderates and independents will put him over the top.<br><br>GBR (OFI)
gaining on McCain won't be a problem no matter what. these two could have a knock down all out brawl and they'd still emerge and pick up the pieces and win big in November. Dems are winning regardless of what polls say today. tonight on Fox News Ann Coulter said there's no way she's voting for McCain and that she'd even vote for Hillary before she'd vote for McCain.<br><br>
Was she serious! Wow! I watched the Republican debate and McCain seems like a nice enough guy except for his stance on not leaving Iraq until they WIN the war.<br><br>I am shocked at Ann though. My late sister liked Ann Coulter and told me she "really knew how to call a spade a spade and knew what she was talking about!" She thought Ann was about the smartest woman she knew. Phew. I didn't talk politics with my sisters. <br><br>Hope you're right about gaining on McCain. I'm okay with either Hillary or Obama but you know my druthers <br><br>Kate<br><br>
well, i doubt she's really serious if you ask her a few months from now. <br><br>about gaining on McCain . . . i think Obama can do it much better than Hillary. America knows Hillary and her negatives are high. Obama has a better chance to make a meaningful first impression and win big. Hillary doesn't have that luxury and i think she could lose to McCain, fwiw. i dont' think she will, but i do think the election will be much closer than if we nominate Obama.<br><br>
Loc: Yuba City, California
Speaking of moderates, Rep Tom Davis announced his retirement yesterday making him the fifth senior Republican to announce their retirement in a week! <br><br>I think I can say without equivocation that the Republicans will not take back control of the House in November and the exodus will continue as more Republicans excuse themselves from public office.<br><br><br>M i c h a e l (OFI)
I only saw a little bit, but enough to see Wolf sound like the spineless, passive aggressive, asswipe that he is.<br><br>Did you catch that bit after Sen. Clinton explained her vote on the Iraq Resolution and the Levin Amendment (good question, by the way) when Wolf, apparently unsatisfied with Clinton's lack of humility, asked her if she would say that she was naive for voting on the Iraq Resolution?<br><br>Now, I wasn't happy with Sen. Clinton's answer either, but it was totally classless for Wolf Blitzer to interject his own attack on Clinton instead of letting the voters decide for themselves. Sure, we're all frustrated that Clinton is still clinging onto this "if I knew then what I know now" BS, but Wolf had no right.<br><br>The fact of the matter is that Wolf Blitzer doesn't know what a follow-up question is. He barely listens to his subjects, if at all. Who else would let DIck Cheney lie to their face?<br><br>All that said, I thought the audience reacted appropriately. They booed and even heckled Wolf for at least a minute afterwards. Even the Clinton supporters in that room know a wad when they see one.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U
Well the thing that did it for me was when Wolf said "OK candidates.... come out of your corners swinging ! "" <br><br><br>I didn't watch - he really said that ? <br>what a turd.<br><br>MOST of the MSM is more interested in "show" than content & substance.<br>which is why I'd rather watch Discovery, Natl Geographic, History Channel, and old classic movies (TCM) than their BS !!<br><br>David (OFI)
I was typing that from the lab and had several interruptions from students.. so thanks for the editorial pass Global ! <br><br>and your scenario could be true too....<br><br>and if Hillary gets it , some Dems may be holding their noses...<br><br>there could be a lot of nose holding come November !! <br><br>David (OFI)
<br>... that'll be the ticket. Mark my words.<br><br>Both sides know that nothing can be gained by a mutual mud slinging contest.<br>4-8 years Clinton, by which time Obama will be groomed to take over.<br><br>fringe benefit: Fox News will declare Chapter 11 ;)<br><br><br><br><br><br>
"Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht" (Humour means laughing despite of it)
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