<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Case in point: someone posted a screenshot showing that they hadn't visited the political room as if it was a badge of honor. It disgusted me. Badge of honor? In such dire times, I would think that it might be a full of subjects that (you know, might possibly) be worth a look. But no.... That badge of honor was, if you ask me, a badge of disgrace. <br><br>But I digress...<p><hr></blockquote><p>LOL. It's a badge of disgrace because "someone" doesn't think like you and share your interests exactly? That's not very open minded either, now is it?<br><br>Yeah, you digressed alright.<br><br>Signed,<br><br>Someone (who doesn't share all of your interests but allows you to pursue yours without ridicule)<br><br>------> JD's Trivia game<br><br>------> MCF-MM Trivia game

[color:blue]I have noticed the mudslinging has started here too</font color=blue><br><br>where has there been any mud slinging???<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

<OL><B>"And that attitude brings out the worst in me (and others I imagine) therefore perpetuating the situation. Case in point: someone posted a screenshot showing that they hadn't visited the political room as if it was a badge of honor. It disgusted me."</B></OL>OK, so it disgusted you. And you told everyone how you felt. That's cool. But not everyone agrees with you. We're different, that is to be expected, just move along and find something you like.<OL><B>"And let this godforsaken thread drop into oblivion."</B></OL>Or not. You've been here, you've read through some or all of this thread, so you know the tenor and the main arguments being presented. You can choose to continue to reply, or you can ignore it.<br><br>Ain't it great to have free will and some room to speak your mind—or not?<br><br><br><br>

<br>... at MC you started many a political thread yourself (one of the last ones I recall was the one about Germany and Scientology). And now, over here, you say how little you care for politics?<br>I don't quite get that. Ah well...... <br><br>Me, I'm the same old opinionated, ornery grump, wherever I am. One of the nice things of getting older. ;)<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

I get the impression around here that it is not just a simple issue of having a topic here or there or even an issue with how the separations are enforced. The problem here is how people identify with the various forums and more importantly, how they prefer to disassociate with the others.<br><br>Although Biggerfoot's statement with the forum screenshot could have been, "I don't like that topic, let me show you how much." Look at it from the perspective of someone who might identify with that forum. Imagine if it was the Lounge that was neglected in the picture. It could easily be interpreted as a snub.<br><br>In that case, it's not a ghetto because Stan Flak made it that way. It's a ghetto because we members continue to make it so.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U

Disgust is probably a strong word, but I don't think it's out of line to be disappointed at all. It's one thing in a class of 30 to ignore 10 people. It's another to show off to the other 20 how little you care about what the 10 are saying.<br><br>I regret that anyone feels that way.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U

<OL><B>"Imagine if it was the Lounge that was neglected in the picture. It could easily be interpreted as a snub."</B></OL>Meh...I'd take it like I would any other opinion. I'm free to agree or not. It wasn't like he tried to quantify the reasons why the Sopabox forum wasn't worth visiting, thereby attempting to foist his opinion as fact. It ain't no big deal, IMO.<OL><B>"In that case, it's not a ghetto because Stan Flak made it that way. It's a ghetto because we members continue to make it so."</B></OL>Prezactly. It thrives or dies on its own merits and the will of the folks who participate.<br><br>My feelings about the fate of the Soapbox forum are neutral, either way. I choose not to participate, because I prefer to hear tone-of-voice and see body language when a topic is so highly charged. Others are game for it. So it goes.<br><br><br>

Here's my...<br><br><br><br>zweisoft<br>

This certainly is a forum with a history of passive-aggressive swipes and territorial fights between forum members. Gladly, many of those participants have been shamed into either infrequent posting or have disappeared altogether. So I'm not neccessarily saying that I believe Biggerfoot or anyone else intended to insult other forum members and it would not be appropriate to share my opinion on their intentions. However, there is plenty of rationale to see it as rude or an attack.<br><br>I think it goes back to some acrimony between posters that needs to be dealt with directly. I personally don't believe that having separate forums or what they are called is the root problem here. The problem is that some people don't get along with others.<br><br>-- Cee Bee Double-U

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>What bothers me here is those that seem to be adopting such a hostile attitude towards others that have the gall (as they would put it) to suggest that the current way of doing things maybe isn't exactly ideal. It's one thing to say "things have been this way and they are working just fine." But it's quite another to say so while showing one's teeth.<br><br>And that attitude brings out the worst in me (and others I imagine) therefore perpetuating the situation. Case in point: someone posted a screenshot showing that they hadn't visited the political room as if it was a badge of honor. It disgusted me. Badge of honor? In such dire times, I would think that it might be a full of subjects that (you know, might possibly) be worth a look. But no.... That badge of honor was, if you ask me, a badge of disgrace. <p><hr></blockquote><p>Disgrace? What a pompous attitude. Illustrating that one is not interested in what new people are proposing to change is not disgusting, it is making a point against the integration of the forums. Contribute several thousand posts here first before you start trying to throw your weight around and accuse other members that that they are disgusting since they do not wish become involved in the Soapbox discussions. I am sure there are other long time members with the same numbers with the other sections. <br><br>It is an individual's choice on what they wish to view and participate in...nothing more or less. Who cares what others are looking at? Why in the world would it offend anyone if a person does not wish to look at a series of posts? The uniqueness of MacMinute's Lounge is the fact that for those wishing to avoid the political banner, can. I would not be offended, or disappointed, one bit if people did not want to view my latest motorcycle, cat, or weight room photo...it is about choice. Here at MacMinute, there is choice<br><br>However, I am pissed and am probably showing my teeth. The fact that several MacCentral refugees are wishing to make MacMinute like the dead MC forums is not appreciated. The harshness of MacCentral chased me away years ago and after being a regular here for years and seeing new folks wanting to change MM to MacCentralv2 is upsetting. As a result, I will speak up. This is not MacCentral and I hope it never will be.<br><br>_______<br>