No complaints yet, except Stacks of course. Loving Leopard. Spaces is awesome.<br><br>But the firewall. . . I use my router so I don't need the OS X firewall, most people I know do also, but I'm looking for something easy for my clients to figure out, like the way Tiger was. I was looking at WaterRoof to replace Apple's implementation of it in Leopard, any other suggestions, free or reasonably priced that isn't too complicated? WaterRoof does too much for the casual user.<br><br>Hopefully Apple revamps it and gives port support again, not just application blocking.<br><br>I don't know why they changed, below is some info for anyone interested. The last third is about Leopard in particular and what changed, basically everything. They don't use ipfw.<br><br>http://db.tidbits.com/article/9294<br><br><br><br><br><br>------> JD's Trivia game<br><br>------> MCF-MM Trivia game<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Reboot on 01/13/08 05:55 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
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I find the new Firewall FAR easier to work with, but I can see how that might vary with your needs.<br><br>It used to be, to host a game (or BT or whatever service) I'd have to look up the ports online or in the docs and punch them in. Now I just choose the app and be done with it. I wish my router's firewall were that easy.<br><br>nagr[color:red]o</font color=red>mme<br><br>I require stroyent!<br><br>http://TeamMacOSX.com | http://MacClan.net
Okay, now don't freakin' rain on my dark cloud. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>It used to be, to host a game (or BT or whatever service) I'd have to look up the ports online or in the docs and punch them in.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Good point, I see what you're saying there, but sometimes port control is handy, which their "black box" won't let you do. It's aimed towards the majority of the consumers, I can see that, but give us the ipfw option too.<br><br>------> JD's Trivia game<br><br>------> MCF-MM Trivia game
You might want to check out MacSecure.com. You CAN do what you want with Leopard's Firewall, you just have to do it through the Terminal, or other method.<br><br>In any case, this post in particular may be of interest to you<br><br>The Graphic Mac for your Mac and graphics news, tips and more.
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i cannot get Back to my Mac to work. i can use screen sharing just fine when i am home and on the same network . . . it's venturing out when things fail. i am not sure what's blocking it but i have fiddled with my Airport Extreme (e.g., port forwarding) and with various things on my Mac hooked up via ethernet. i used to use Timbuktu a few years ago with no problem so something's not easier now. hmmm.<br><br>
Turn off the firewall on the Mac if you have the Airport Extreme, it's your firewall, you may be adding a layer of confusion.<br><br>------> JD's Trivia game<br><br>------> MCF-MM Trivia game
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I can't agree that it is overall great at this point. I have been running 10.5 on my iMac G4 since it shipped, but several problems have made me hold back from upgrading my iMac Core2Duo and recommending it for my sons' MacBook and PowerBook. (Bought a family pack; but still holding off upgrading.):<br>[1] Firewire implementation is problematic - eternally spinning color wheel on waking from sleep with firewire drive connected. These are OWC enclosures using Oxford 911 chip set that have worked perfectly on all those computers under 10.4.11<br>[2] Permissions repair takes over half an hour.<br>[3] Forgets shared printers, and takes a long time to set them up again. (Although tonight it remembered them, after entering them for the "ump-teenth" time. Go figure.)<br>[4] A few important programs not yet updated for 10.5, SuperDuper being the most significant to me.<br><br>If Apple fixes [1] and [2] in 10.5.2, then I'll be ready to fully commit.<br><br>I really like the networking implementation in 10.5, so I'm anxious for Apple to fix the other bugs.<br><br>Who serves his fellows, is of his fellows greatest - Chingachgook (by legend) <br><br>Scout
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The problem with the firewire drives may be that Spotlight is indexing them. Next time you have the external drive mounted, go to the Spotlight Preference Pane and tell the system to ignore the drive. See if that makes a difference.<br><br>   
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Hmmm, it was set to allow all incoming connections. i am not sure i ever touched it as it was located in the Security pane of the system prefs. i've only fiddled with the Sharing pane. i hear it's just finicky and that Apple is working on some stability with the app . . . perhaps Tuesday.<br><br>
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Re [2]: you shouldn't have to repair permissions unless you have a problem. Regular permissions repair (so frequent that you care how long) may be a sign of some other issue.<br><br>nagr[color:red]o</font color=red>mme<br><br>I require stroyent!<br>http://TeamMacOSX.com | http://MacClan.net