<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>spiders in my head ? <p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Maybe I'm just more fortunate<br>I don't have to "spend" 2 years in research<br>I can just go asks the Africans next door or <br>the Black Muslins downstairs, or the Puerto <br>Rican foster kids on the other side of me. <br><br>One gains a somewhat broader view when <br>the scenery surrounds you on every side. <br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Celandine on 10/13/07 03:03 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Yep. The French in particular, but also the Spanish, had a different take on slavery than did the English, who in many many many ways were the worst of the lot.<br><br>   
_________________________ MACTECHubi dolor ibi digitus
Most Native Americans took captives that white people<br>came to call "slaves" because they had no concept for<br>taking members of a different tribe into your own, and<br>adopting them as family members, to share your food, <br>and shelter with, and in return, expect them to shoulder<br>a fair share of the daily workload. These outsiders were<br>also allowed to marry into the family & tribe, thus adding<br>to the strength of the tribe, while adding fresh blood into<br>the genetic makeup of the closely knit band. Once accepted<br>into the tribe, the "captive" could also be an ambassador<br>and translator between the tribes, that was often instru-<br>mental in forging alliances & treaties, or as hostages<br>used in exchanges to buy back ones own family members.<br><br>Although in a very real sense, taking captives wasn't much <br>different from stealing ponies to increase your herd and <br>standing within the communities, it was still very different <br>from "slavery" in the traditional sense of the word.<br><br><br>In Empirical Rome, the taking of high ranking officials,<br>especially the children of the kings & queens of vanquished<br>countries, then educating (indoctrinating) them and then <br>allowing them to become "Citizens of Rome" was acceptable.<br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
Still, far & away better than were the Dutch, <br>that viewed the indiginous peoples as no better<br>than animals fit for the slaughter.<br><br>...or the Israelites that brought down genecide <br>not only on every man, women & child of the<br>tribes whose land they coveted, claiming to be <br>only following (God's) orders...right down to the <br>beasts in the fields, the bondsmen and slaves. ** <br><br>**(Dt 7:1-4, 20:16-18)<br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
oops, <br><br>I just realized that we wound up right back "On Topic"<br><br>How the HELL did THAT happen?!? <br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
Well, while this debate was going on, I was wondering, has the US ever formally acknowledged the genocide it perpetrated on the Amerindians? Some kind of formal statement? Anyone know anything about this?<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
_________________________ We are what we repeatedly do - Aristotle
No, our government has never owned up to the genocide of Native American Indians. I doubt it ever will and I doubt our government's hypocrisy on this issue has gone unnoticed. <br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:blue]I always deserve it. Really.</font color=blue><br><br>
_________________________ I always deserve it. Really.
sorry, I keep passing out from diabetic coma<br>at times it's difficult to answer before passing out again<br>I can't complete the search at the moment, but heres what I've foound so far:<br>===========<br>An historic Resolution of Apology to the Native American peoples was introduced in the U.S. Congress by Senators Sam Brownback (R-KS), Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-CO) and Daniel K. Inouye (D-HI) on the evening of the May 6, 2004, National Day of Prayer.<br><br>You can "track" the progress of this Joint Resolution by visiting the Library of Congress website http://thomas.loc.gov and typing in the Bill Number, S.J. Res. 37.<br><br>JOINT RESOLUTION OF APOLOGY TO NATIVE PEOPLES INTRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE MAY 6, 2004<br><br>REMARKS ON SENATE FLOOR AND TEXT OF RESOLUTION S.J. RES. 37<br><br>From the Congressional Record, May 6, 2004<br>=========<br>http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:598:./temp/~c110sDat11::<br><br>598 . To acknowledge a long history of official depredations and ill-conceived policies by the United States Government regarding Indian tribes and offer an apology to all Native Peoples... (Reported in Senate)[S.J.RES.4.RS]<br><br>110th CONGRESS<br><br>1st Session<br><br>S. J. RES . 4<br><br>[Report No. 110-83]<br><br>JOINT RESOLUTION<br>=============<br>RESOLUTION OF APOLOGY TO THE NATIVE PEOPLES<br><br><br>http://nativeres.org/<br><br>http://www.ifapray.org/NativeAmericanPrayer/NAPA07/NAPA_SJRes4.html<br><br>http://www.ifapray.org/NativeAmericanPrayer/NAPA07/NAPA_HJRes3.html<br><br><br><br><br>=============<br>sorry, you never get to see my raw notes<br>you usually get them neatly trimmed and stacked<br>sorry about that<br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green> [color:green]. . . _ _ _ . . .</font color=green><br>
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