I make no assumptions about your cocktail chatter, but I do suspect that unless you're really bonzo gonzo with the vodka martinis, as a scientist you don't often question the premise that the universe is a rational phenomenon. Maybe you do . . . I dunna know . . . but it's not something that scientists I've known and loved do on a regular basis. Love 'em anyway, of course.<br><br>&#63743; &#63743; &#63743; &#63743;

The minutæ of cocktail chatter about the origins of everything isn't relevant.<br><br>What's relevant to this discussion is that the dialogue takes place at all.<br><br>

I didn't think we were talking about the premise of the universe as a rational or irrational phenomenon. Who here is talking about that? Only some nutty Philosophy Professors would drone on about that. <br>We were talking about raping kids and then it switched to religion. Whether the universe was made by some old dude in the sky or by what any rational scientist would describe is possibly where we were headed but why complicate things?<br><br>Lets get back to brainwashing of kids and why religion loves doing it and science abhors it. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

He is right about one thing. I was out of gin and had a vodka martini. But you answered more quickly and fewer words. I blame the martini and making sure the dogs were in.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

Hah . . . got that right, then!<br><br>&#63743; &#63743; &#63743; &#63743;

Agree completely . . . which is why the immoderate moderator's mutilation of MM was so bad.<br><br>&#63743; &#63743; &#63743; &#63743;

RIP the immoderate moderator's mutilation of MM. This thread still stands! Could it be that dialogue that might express opinions that people do not like so they expresses counter arguments to those opinions and post them in a thread can live and breath in MacMinute? Will wonders never cease?<br><br>Or iMMMod2 took the weekend off.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

The reason this thread stands—hopefully—is because we are discussing the subject with a fair amount of calm intelligence.<br><br>I can deal with controversial subjects, as long as it doesn't devolve into personal attacks.<br><br>When that happens, I bail.<br><br>

Agreed completely on the personal attacks. But I don't know, Sparky . . . much more glittering agreement like this and I might have to go over to poly's and get me a vodka martini or two <br><br>&#63743; &#63743; &#63743; &#63743;

I'm closer.<br><br>And I have Jacquins and Tropicana Grape (from CONCENTRATE!)<br><br><br>