"Want to have a laugh? I've actually had people recommend the iMac for gaming."<br><br><br>what are you talking about !!??<br><br>It's fine for gaming !!<br><br>Solitare ! <br><br>Civilization IV<br><br><br>David (OFI)

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>People argue that the Mac Pro was never intended for gaming.<p><hr></blockquote><p>There's no reason the MacPro couldn't be a kick ass gaming machine, indeed it'd probably be the most kick ass gaming machine ever if it weren't that the GF8 card made it not boot into OS X when it's seated in the fastest slot. <br><br>I've always had two machines, but the MacPro seriously is an all around wonder. The only downside is that only one person can be using it at a time. (unless of course you configure it with a terminal server) But, I want that GeForce card and I'm not going to compromise. <br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®

perhaps you're not far off:<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>A posting to the Santa Clara-based firm's reseller website briefly revealed launch plans for seven of the new Xeon chips -- the successors to those used in Apple's Mac Pro desktops -- before it was abruptly removed. The chip family, codenamed Harpertown, will range in speeds from 2.0GHz to 3.16GHz.<br><br>Each of the new processors will sport a Thermal Design Power (TDP) of 80 watts, pack 12MB of Level 2 cache, and run on a 1333MHz front-side bus. The only exception is the high-end 3.16GHz chip, which was listed with a TDP of 120 watts.<br><br>According to the information listed on Intel's reseller site, the new chips will fetch between $209 for the 2.0GHz model to $1,172 for the 3.16GHz variant. In the sweet spot of the Xeon lineup -- where Apple has historically chosen its standard Mac Pro processors -- lies a 2.83GHz model priced at $690.<p><hr></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/08/15/intel_leaks_details_of_mac_pro_bound_xeon_chips.html">http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/08/15/intel_leaks_details_of_mac_pro_bound_xeon_chips.html</a><br><br>

I'm following this very, very, very closely, Sean.<br>The new Harpertown processors are coming out on November 11th.<br>So far everything tells me new Mac Pros in November.<br>If you want to find me, I'll be at the head of the line <br><br><br><br>

i am right behind you. <br><br>

I'm right behind you :)<br><br>Looks like some new Macs for us in Nov hopefully ;)<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!®

Are you guys Greek? <br><br>- alec -

Maybe but at least we are not invisible <br><br>

"The hard drive in my G4 at work was dying so last Monday I got a new quad core MacPro."<br><br>Wow... that was a convenient.... er great excuse! <br><br>" But Honey, the Hard drive went and died !!<br>I couldn't put a 1 T HD in my old machine... wouldn't fit ! " <br><br>and they threw in Free Shipping !! <br><br>David (OFI)

Here is a link that I found to give Apple feedback about the Mac Pro.<br>I used it to ask for a top of the line high-end bto consumer video card in the next Mac Pro.<br>I know it's not going to do any good but it made me feel better that I tried.<br>The odds are Apple already has all the components for the next Mac Pro in place.<br>Here it is anyway:<br>Mac Pro Feedback<br><br><br><br><br>