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#310579 - 04/16/07 02:33 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: steveg]
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well thank you Steve, we Macbabes are just doing our part to keep you abreast of things <br><br> One reason why birds and horses are not unhappy is<br>because they are not trying to impress other birds and horses. <br>Dale Carnegie

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#310580 - 04/16/07 02:41 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: steveg]
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But there are hosts of people who through action, inaction, thoughtless word or deed could be construed as an impact of ruining our days - you can go looking for these people or ignore them. I feel that people who go looking for offence will find it if they look hard enough, I think that's a waste of ones life, there are far more important causes to champion. And giving small minded people a national voice is just plain dumb,<br><br>The funny thing in this case is that the people directly affected have accepted the guys appology and hopefully are getting on with their lives not paying it a second thought. I'm guessing that the people taking the most offence are those who have only heard that one offending line from his show.<br><br>I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Llewelyn on 04/16/07 10:44 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
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#310581 - 04/16/07 02:54 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: Llewelyn]
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Registered: 04/19/02
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Methinks you've just overdrawn your Assumption Account.<br><br>Yes the team accepted the apology. They have taken the high road. But you cannot assume that the apology undoes the hurt and the insult. You can accept an apology from someone who just broke your leg by not thinking before throwing a bowling ball down a crowded sidewalk. But the apology will not heal the injury, and you may be stuck with a limp for life. Nor can you assume that only those unfamiliar with Imus found the remark offensive. Many have heard him do this in the past, and for some it was one time too many.<br><br>But, I don't wish to beat a dead horse with a stick, and if you don't see the real problem here, nothing I'm gonna say will change your mind. In the meantime, I have to google more pics of Janet's boobs for my next ad campaign. <br><br>
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#310582 - 04/16/07 02:56 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: bird]
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Good thing I had a new Viagra offer in my email this AM. <br><br>
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#310583 - 04/16/07 03:06 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: Llewelyn]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I think Imus has been elevated by the national coverage. How many people had never heard of the guy before this incident?<p><hr></blockquote><p>I think we will have to set a one year timer on that one. If Imus is contrite he will make a new name for himself by going to his ranch and helping kids dying of cancer. If he did that the rest of his life as well as raising money for cancer research I would pat him on the back.<br><br>He possibly could land up in purgatory on satellite but I doubt it. As for all the people who now know who Imus is now that he lost his job you keep bringing this up as empowering Imus. Being shown as a racist fool is empowering? No, there has been a dialog exposing it. His remark about the William's sisters that they should be on the cover of National Geographic has been brought up as well as the many other racist comments. Jesse Jackson's "Hymietown" and Sharpton's racist comments have been brought up. This is all good. Painting them as racist comments in no way empowers them except in the minds of racists who love to hear that stuff. But when kids see Imus getting fired for it they know that it is not civil language.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

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#310584 - 04/16/07 03:12 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: Llewelyn]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I think Imus has been elevated by the national coverage. <p><hr></blockquote><p>The only example I can think of is a shock jock in Boston last year describing a gubernatorial candidate as a "fat lesbian". Gone with not so much as a ripple after a very good discussion. I can't even remember his name but he isn't pulling a paycheck on the radio.<br><br><br><br><br><br>

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#310585 - 04/16/07 03:29 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: polymerase]
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Watch it, bub. I voted for that "fat lesbian". Or let's say it was a vote against that "nappy-headed, cadilac-drivin' pimp" — who got elected anyway. <br><br><br><br><br><br>
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#310586 - 04/16/07 05:03 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: Llewelyn]
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Nothing comes of nothing.

Registered: 05/25/01
Posts: 30520
Loc: PA, USA
On a weekend evening in 1987, at a bar in "downtown" Carlinville, IL, as I sat and listened to a jerk mouth off with racist characterizations of my students, I vowed that I would never again let that kind of crap pass by me. Some of you have seen me and know that I'm not exactly the most impressive hunk of rippling man-muscle in the world, but by God I told that sucker just how wrong he was, why he was wrong, and why what he said made him clearly and obviously the idiot. I haven't ducked the issue again.<br><br>Of course, I don't hand out in bars any more . . . . <br><br>But my point is that we are ethically obliged to respond to stupidity, whatever the source, and whatever the context.<br><br>
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#310587 - 04/16/07 09:01 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: polymerase]
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Registered: 01/18/04
Posts: 19514
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Good point.<br><br>Political correctness shouldn't be confined to "Racism" and even "Sexism".<br><br>Nor should only select groups of people be allowed to USE accusations of racism<br>as a tool, or weapon of fear used to prevent people from questioning any negative<br>actions perpetrated by anyone of that particular race, lest the accusation trump<br>all else, thus in the end making anyone questioning any perceived wrong doing,<br>as being MORE Guilty that the person, or people allegedly committing the act.<br><br>In the vernacular surrounding the 'OJ Trial' ~ "PLAYING THE RACE CARD" ~<br><br><br><br>[color:white].</font color=white><br>[color:white]. . </font color=white>
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#310588 - 04/18/07 05:57 PM Re: Now it's getting REALLY silly! [Re: Celandine]
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I invented modding!

Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 1455
Loc: Memphis, tn
The problem with political correctness is the double standards by which it is applied. Take Memphis for example. 75% black, 25% white. I have been called every name in the book, simply because I am white. The local radio shows go on rants about "Crackers" and "Whitey", yet you don't see anyone running to fire them.<br><br>Another example. Imus is fired for calling these women "nappy haired ho's", yet 3-6 Maffia is given an Oscar for "It's hard out there for a pimp", and then the Mayor of Memphis holds a ceremony and gives them the Key to the City.<br><br>If Imus had burned a flag on national TV, something many of us find truly offensive, the ACLU would have jumped to his defense, but because he offended a different group he was fired.<br><br>I'm sick of the double standard!! If we are going to start punishing people for being offensive, then lets punish EVERYBODY for being offensive. Otherwise the politically correct monitors need to shut the hell up and get a life.<br><br><br>Salus populi suprema lex
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