To practice what one preaches is always good form. As is lining up support for one's claims and putting them in context. Before throwing a hissy fit, I'd want to know what all those kilowatts and therms were used for. I'd want to know why private jets and limos are needed. Because, while his energy usage is vastly different from yours and mine, so is his lifestyle. Is there a connection? How do his day-to-day routines and needs stack up against others in his niche? Might such details actually provide at least some justification or explanation for the "suspect" numbers?<br><br>I'll give you a statistical fer-instance: Private jets. For those who fly very frequently, private charters actually cost the flyer less over the course of a year. Smaller planes use much less fuel proportionately than commercial jets and do less harm to the atmosphere. Because smaller jets can use shorter runways and/or smaller airports closer to a given destination, less gas for ground transportation is used. Now, that might sound more like a rationalization than a justification to you, but there is a certain economic benefit that does extend outward beyond just the user's biosphere.<br><br>So at the end of the day, is he a hypocrite, or is he doing the best he can under his very unique circumstances? Two sides to every story, and the truth usually lies between.<br><br>
Well that Tenessee group brought it up... let's see if the numbers are real or contrived.<br><br>Remember the riff the GOP tried to spark between Hillary and Obama a few weeks back about Obama's schooling that turned out to be FUD (and LIES) !<br><br>IF he's guilty then SHAME on Gore, but lets' see if the story sticks.<br><br>David (OFI)
re: private jets.<br><br>There are flights every day going here and there. While the bigger jets use more fuel and whatnot, there are more people on them than a private jet. Why not take a bus? Train? I guess because it's inconvenient.<br><br><br>Personally I don't see any reason for a limo except for protection (Presidents, visiting dignitaries, etc). Al should just hop in a taxi or ride the city bus. Yeah...his "lifestyle" may be different to afford a limo or explain the energy use, but why? Isn't his whole spiel that you and me should be more energy efficient to help save the ecology? Shouldn't he do everything he can to do his part? <br><br>Ahh..found a written article. (It's stupid how CNN only has videos of some articles).<br>http://clicked.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/27/72535.aspx<br><br>Ahh...Gore's answer is that "after employing a number of energy saving tactics he buys carbon offsets to make up the rest. " <br><br><br><br>
And again, you're basing your POV solely on your own lifestyle and commitments without even trying to understand the whys and wherefores of what Gore's requirements are. If he has 3 speaking engagements booked over 3 days in say, Philly, Tuscon, and San Francisco, a bus wouldn't be a very efficient solution, would it? You can't put convenience and efficiency in the same bucket. And just because a commercial flight might carry more passengers than a private jet, the economies of scale don't always hold up. I've been on flights from NYC to DFW with maybe 25 passengers on a 727. That's not too efficient. And if there are no direct flights, you're burning even more fuel to get from point A to point B.<br><br>Trust me, I'm not here to defend Gore blindly, but I'm all to happy to offer up a POV that asks people to examine all the facts before they go for the rope. If he's just selfishly contradicting his own message, then bad on him. But we don't know that yet, do we?<br><br>
I've been looking for the link to the story, but can't find it. Let me report then what the story said. First, that Gore's use of electricity is entirely from green energy sources. Second, that Gore actually buys more green energy than he uses--i. e. that he subsidizes the green energy movement. Third, that Gore's house in TN is just a tad larger than your average house--something like 20 rooms, plus. Anyway, listen to Olbermann on the subject.<br><br>
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Gore's use of electricity is entirely from green energy sources<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>And if he gets that green power from the national grid, it means there's a large allocation of this green power not available to the common people. Thus they have to use the available "dirty" power. Power is produced from a number of sources, each source has a finite production capacity. While you can be extravagant with your power usage and claim that it's all from "green sources" it's still adds to the mathematics that your usage of green power has to be made up on the grid from other sources - be they green or dirty. So the question does come back to is Mr Gore being thrifty or excessive in his use of the available power.<br><br>If that additional 2200kWh was made up on the grid by coal fire power stations - then personally I don't give a damn who Mr Gore is paying for his personal electricity supply the net effect is that additional ungreen power generation replaced that additional usage somewhere in the nation.<br><br>And the whole carbon offset thing is verging on a joke too - in theory someone somewhere has to go on a carbon diet, so someone else can binge on it.<br><br>I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take great comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.
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And here are some green energy users.<br><br>edit: Sorry. I realized that the original post made me sound like some people who don't post around here much any more, so I deleted the sarcasm and kept the link.<br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by yoyo52 on 03/01/07 00:39 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
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