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#296753 - 11/17/06 03:21 AM Something horrifying
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This is just astonishing.<br><br>____________________________________________________<br>Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive,<br>But to be young was very heaven!
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#296754 - 11/17/06 04:12 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: yoyo52]
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[color:blue]Here's your Patriot Act, here's your f&*$ing abuse of power," while he struggled with the officers.</font color=blue> - Well I dunno that came after the first taser<br><br>[color:blue]CSOs asked a male student using a computer in the back of the room to leave when he was unable to produce a BruinCard during a random check. The student did not exit the building immediately.</font color=blue><br><br>I am not defending CSO - However what the video does not show is what happened at the computer desk , does show CSO heading to the exit - with student yelling "don't touch me" which to me means that the student was being escorted out.<br><br>The student was defiant during and even after he was tasered - Did he deserve it ? I dunno I was not there to witness the whole event. However if you decide to be a real priick with authorities you can find yourself with some kind of trouble.<br><br>Bottom Line;<br>1 - Was the student without a Bruin-Card a student ? a rapist ? a murderer ? a robber ? a guest priick or just a Bruin priick who forgot his school ID card ?<br><br>2 - Did the CSO over react = YES<br><br>Simply the way that the law would look at this is ;<br>1 - Priick did not have a BruinCard ID so therefore he should have NOT have been in the library to begin with , which started his ordeal <-- his fault . Much like the view of a person with a suspended drivers license , driving on the road and gets into an accident <-- that driver was NOT supposed to be on the road in the first place <-- his fault.<br><br><br><br>
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#296755 - 11/17/06 04:14 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: yoyo52]
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That was torture pure and simple. Campus cops have tasers? He didn't have his Bruin's card on him? Are they going to start tasering when you are late for class? <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

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#296756 - 11/17/06 04:20 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: carp]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Simply the way that the law would look at this is ;<br>1 - Priick did not have a BruinCard ID so therefore he should have NOT have been in the library to begin with , which started his ordeal <-- his fault . Much like the view of a person with a suspended drivers license , driving on the road and gets into an accident <-- that driver was NOT supposed to be on the road in the first place <-- his fault.<br><p><hr></blockquote><p>You taser someone for not having an ID? You taser someone for an expired drver's license?<br><br>No, you taser someone because you have a Taser and you're a prick. <br><br><br><br><br><br>

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#296757 - 11/17/06 04:35 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: polymerase]
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LOL<br><br>He was taser for obstructing orders from CSO - has nothing to do at that point about having a card or NOT.<br><br>Simply<br>Not having a card is what got him in trouble - Fighting with CSO is what got him the taser. <br><br>Still like I said CSO over reacted - They could have handcuff the priick and carried him off campus . IMO<br><br>
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#296758 - 11/17/06 04:53 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: carp]
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I've been on college campuses since 1970, and I have to tell you that the idea that you always have to carry a campus ID with you is not exactly commonplace. I don't know what other circumstances were involved in this, but those campus cops need a little tasering themselves.<br><br>____________________________________________________<br>Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive,<br>But to be young was very heaven!
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#296759 - 11/17/06 05:06 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: carp]
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1) UCLA students are going to make this a HUGE issue. Tasers will be gone from campus.<br>2) i see the ACLU getting involved -- get it -- ACLU vs UCLA.<br>3) the officers involved may have started with good intentions (debatable), but the screwed up big time even using the taser on the student after they handcuffed him. these officers will be seeking new employment.<br><br>--<br>"I am mindful that diversity is one of the strengths of the country" --president bush on 9/27/05

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#296760 - 11/17/06 05:08 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: yoyo52]
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Maybe because of all those campuses "rapes" in the last few years - I dunno<br>I am sure that the campuses were questioned about "where" was security for students when those acts of crime happened ? ? and still can you tell me that this priick was not a perp ?<br><br>Anyway - Still I feel CSO should not have a taser but they do just goes to show you the signs of times = Violence on campuses and the Guards are nervous .<br><br><br><br>
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#296761 - 11/17/06 05:11 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: carp]
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this student didn't appear to be a threat. he was asked to leave and didn't. the library staff called security. the kid started to leave (keep in mind that he really was a student using the library). security shows up as student is leaving and they grab him by the arm. he tells them he's leaving and to let go. they taser him. they took a small situation and blew it way, way out of proportion. their escalation is what made this an issue. there's a reason that every student in the library was telling the cops to stop. the kids asked the officers for their badge numbers and an officer threatened a kid for asking. legally, cops can't threaten a person for asking a cop for his/her badge number. these cops went overboard. idiots.<br><br>--<br>"I am mindful that diversity is one of the strengths of the country" --president bush on 9/27/05

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#296762 - 11/17/06 05:39 AM Re: Something horrifying [Re: sean]
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Speaking of something horrifying:<br><br>Oral Roberts stuns No. 3 Kansas<br><br>Looks like your guys need to get some religion. <br><br>In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams<br>
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