Thanks, bird. It's a painful read, same ol' same ol', till he starts on this ~<br><br><br>[color:blue][First] I am asking Congress to list the specific recognizable offenses that would be considered crimes under the War Crimes Act so our personnel can know clearly what is prohibited in the handling of terrorist enemies.<br><br>Second, I'm asking that Congress make explicit that by following the standards of the Detainee Treatment Act, our personnel are fulfilling America's obligations under Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions.<br><br>Third, I'm asking that Congress make it clear that captured terrorists cannot use the Geneva Conventions as a basis to sue our personnel in courts, in U.S. courts.</font color=blue><br><br><br>Sounds like an end run around the courts to me.<br><br>About Ms. Couric. I'm not a fan and I think she was chosen because CBS is in last place, not because she brings any credibility to the job. Still, I could live with her, but not the new format. If I wanted a Good Morning America look at the world, I'd watch the morning show. I don't want to be told three times in one broadcast to log onto the web for "more on the story." I am not interested in Talking Head of the Day commentary on a news program. Or Pics of the Day featuring Baby Suri.<br><br>And I'm amazed that she'd admit that, after allllllll this time, she can't think of a sign off.<br><br>How about "This is Katie Couric and I'm sorry." ~ From my local talk radio<br><br><br><br> <br><br>[color:blue]. . . . like the devil in the deep blue sea.</font color=blue>
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I only watched a little of that interview. Bush's very presence — his body language, facial expressions, vocal inflections — reminded me of a life size puppet. And I'm not being facetious at all. He literally acted like a wooden puppet. It just seemed surreal.<br><br>
A puppet with an attitude........his segments weren't on long , the string masters made sure when the questions got hard and his nose started to grow.... fade to next topic....<br>these answers were unacceptable IMO<br><br>Couric asked the President if he could give any indication about the kind of information he was able to glean from the "high-valued targets." <br><br>"We uncovered a potential anthrax attack on the United States. Or the fact the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had got somebody to line up people to fly airlines, to crash airlines into I think the West Coast,[color:red] or somewhere in America </font color=red> and these would be Southeast Asians," Mr. Bush said. <br>I'm sitting here thinking well we all know somewhere...... its right next to someplace <br>"This is pretty rich data that has been declassified, so that I'm capable of telling America the importance of the interrogation program, and I'm going to call upon Congress to make sure the interrogators has the capacity to do so [color:red]without breaking the law . See we're not interrogating now, because CIA officials feel like the rules are so vague that they cannot interrogate without being tried as war criminals. That's irresponsible." </font color=red><br><br>Couric asked Mr. Bush if this is a tacit acknowledgment that the way these detainees were handled was wrong. <br><br>"No. Not at all. It's a tacit acknowledgment that we're doing [color:red]smart things</font color=red> to get information to protect the American people," the President said. "I've said to the people that[color:red] we don't torture, and we don't." </font color=red> <br>That nose was twitching I tell ya twitching.....<br>My guts churn when I think of the decisions ahead that he will be making...before we ever get these war mongers out of office.....if we can get them out <br><br>
• Joshua Marshall nails it<br><br><br>• Columnist Andrew Sullivan is all over this story and dissects the President's speech.<br><br>From yesterday: <br>"This is the Rove gambit: make this election a choice between legalizing torture or enabling the murderers of 9/11 to escape justice. The timing is deliberate; the exploitation of 9/11 gob-smacking; the cynicism fathomless. There is only one response: call them on it and vote for their opponents in November. And pray that in the meantime, John McCain won't lose his nerve or his integrity."<br><br><br>Today:<br>"If the president wants to argue that all this is necessary, that we need to breach the Geneva Conventions in order to protect the public, then he should say so. He should make the argument, and persuade Americans that torture should now be official policy, and seek explicit legislation amounting to a breach of the Geneva Conventions. That would be an honest position. He would gain the support of much of the Republican base, a large swathe of the conservative intelligentsia, and the contempt of the civilized world. We could then debate this honestly, including the torture techniques he has authorized and supports. Instead he lies."<br><br>"In the cases the president cites, he authorized torture as plainly stated in U.S. law and common English. Moreover, he says he has set up an elite group trained specifically for torture, the kind of elite torture-squads once dear to South American dictators. They have, he reassures us, 250 extra hours of torture-training over regular CIA interrogators. The president is asking the Congress to establish this in law. Yes, this is America. It just no longer seems like it."<br><br><br><br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> [First] I am asking Congress to list the specific recognizable offenses that would be considered crimes under the War Crimes Act so our personnel can know clearly what is prohibited in the handling of terrorist enemies. <p><hr></blockquote><p>ah excuse me, azzhole (Bush) but shouldn't you have that in place BEFORE you lock them up !! <br><br>ie establishing "the LAW" comes before arrest or detention !!<br>HTF can you arrest someone, hold them for 2-3 years, and then make up the Law?? what a fscking moron !!<br><br><br>and it also requires they have something called evidence...<br> [color:red]<br>otherwise lets arrest Bush and throw him in jail right now!! </font color=red> <br>in 2-3 maybe 4 years we'll tell him what he did !!! <br><br>this is fscking crazy !! it's a G Damm "Salem witch hunt" !! ..nothing less ! <br><br>Jefferson must be turning in his grave !!<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
Gary... <br><br>Comment: fsck all this talk... I think it's time to begin the Protests against Bush et al raping the Constitution and their view of American justice !<br>(not directed to you personally)<br><br>I don't want to see real terrorists released, but many are innocent, many still haven't been charged, and if they can do this to them - and get away with it ... NO citizen is safe...<br><br> it's "krystal-nacht" in America !! <br><br><br>David (OFI)<br>
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