#284657 - 08/18/0607:00 AMRe: The United States of Girlie Men
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Hypocrites like IC would be the first one to cry foul<p><hr></blockquote><p>Actually, I would rather travel in freedom and make friends around the world.<br><br>If I die in the one in a million chance that some angry person blew up the plane<br>I was flying in, it was well worth the risk of living freely and peacefully.<br><br>Testing water bottles for explosives is right up there on 'We've lost our minds<br>and freedom' list.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
PARDON THE C/P I'm not sure that this is a permanent link,<br>But one sentence jumped out at me, and I thought I'd just mention it:<br><br>Suspicious Liquid Found at W.Va. Airport<br> By SHAYA TAYEFE MOHAJER<br> Associated Press Writer<br> August 18, 2006, 2:20 AM EDT<br> <br> CEREDO, W.Va. -- A West Virginia airport terminal was evacuated Thursday after two bottles of liquid found in a woman's carry-on luggage twice tested positive for explosives residue, a Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman said. <br><br>Chemical tests later Thursday turned up no explosives in the bottles, said Capt. Jack Chambers, head of the State Police Special Operations unit. The airport was reopened after nearly 10 hours. <br><br>"It looks like there were four items containing liquids," said TSA spokeswoman Amy von Walter. A machine that security checkpoint screeners use to test for explosives registered positive results for two containers, and a canine team also got a positive hit, she said. <br><br>The TSA screening looks for a range of explosives residue, some of which can be found on common household items, said TSA spokesman Darrin Kayser. <br><br>Airport manager Larry Salyers said he was told the woman was a 28-year-old of Pakistani descent who had moved to West Virginia from Jackson, Mich. <br><br>No charges were filed against the woman, who was taken from the airport by federal authorities at 5 p.m., Salyers said. <br><br>The woman was cooperative, officials said. <br><br>The woman's mother told the Associated Press that her daughter, who is four months pregnant and lives in Barboursville, W.Va., was targeted because of her nationality and Islamic headcover. <br><br>"It was not only a false alarm, it was racial discrimination because there was nothing," Mian Qayyum said, refusing to name her daughter. <br><br>"She just had water to drink because she is pregnant [color:red]and she had a face wash that had a drop of bleach on it</font color=red>," Qayyum said from her home in Jackson. <br><br>The FBI did not immediately return messages Thursday night seeking comment on the racial profiling allegations. <br><br>A screener noticed a bottle in a woman's carry-on bag as she was going through security before her 9:15 a.m. flight to Charlotte, N.C., said Tri-State Airport Authority President Jim Booton. <br><br>One bottle contained a gel-type facial cleanser, FBI spokesman Jeff Killeen said. <br><br>"Anytime a prohibited item is brought to a checkpoint, then you are going to be immediately more interested in that bag," Kayser said. <br><br>The woman had purchased a one-way ticket to Detroit by way of Charlotte on Wednesday, Salyers said. <br><br>The flight was allowed to leave for Charlotte, and the terminal was evacuated at 11:25 a.m., officials said. <br><br>Commercial airline service was suspended, and about 100 passengers and airport employees were ordered to leave the terminal, Booton said. <br><br>Two airlines -- Comair and US Airways Express -- serve the airport. <br><br>After the evacuation, many passengers decided to stay and wait it out. <br><br>"We bought them pizza, soft drinks ... tried to make them comfortable as could be in this situation," Salyers said. "We had them in the parking lot, under trees, in conference rooms, the firehouse." <br><br>U.S. authorities banned the carrying of liquids onto flights last week after British officials made arrests in an alleged plot to blow up U.S.-bound planes using explosives disguised as drinks and other common products. <br><br>Joy and John Cloutre of Ulysses, Ky., were waiting to begin the first leg of their trip to the southeast Asian country of Brunei when the evacuation order came. <br><br>Joy Cloutre told the Herald Dispatch of Huntington that her family didn't want her to leave because of terrorism in the region. "And then we don't even get out of Huntington without something like this happening." <br><br>Copyright 2006 Newsday Inc.<br>---------------------------------------<br><br>QUESTION: WHY did she have a drop of BLEACH on a Face Wash (cloth(?))<br><br>My question is only relevant when you are aware of & take into consideration <br>the LIST of COMMON HOUSEHOLD SUBSTANCES that was Available for YEARS <br>Published in a series of pamphlets Called the "THE CIA BOOK OF DIRTY TRICKS"<br><br>QUESTION: Was this woman that Fits EVERY Criteria of the PERFECT FOIL to be<br>UTILIZED for the Specific Purpose of Propaganda to Ridicule the Entire System?<br><br>CONCERN: "the CRY WOLF SYNDROME" Works For & Against BOTH SIDES, <br>Since we have become conditioned to be prepared to trust NEITHER "SIDE"<br>... It leaves the Public twisting in the wind, ...filled with doubt & uncertainty. <br><br><br>THANX <br><br>
So, because it's not on the list, we shold just say "pfffffft" ? I don't see skiing accidents listed either. Or snowmobiling. Or avalanche or rock/mud slide. I don't see construction site accidents on the list. Does it have to be on a list before it has any importance to you?<br><br>You're usually pretty well armed with facts and a rational, IC. But I think you missed the barn door on this one.<br><br>
#284661 - 08/18/0607:22 AMRe: The United States of Girlie Men
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>So, because it's not on the list, we shold just say "pfffffft" ?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Yes.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> But I think you missed the barn door on this one.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I don't think so. I did state the odds of dying are 1 in 1. We are all going<br>to die. How we live our life while living is the only thing we can control.<br><br>If we are going to spend our treasure and time preventing death then we <br>should spend it where it would do the most good, such as heart disease,<br>cancer and stroke.<br><br>Running around scared of what a terrorist might do next and closing down<br>an airport because of a water bottle makes us Girlie Men.<br><br><br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
Oooo — you are such a Manly Man!<br><br>Hey, live your life as you see fit. And I sincerely hope you get to live it to the fullest extent.<br><br>Regarding cancer, heart disease (you forgot AIDS), and every other major health issue: These things are not exactly ignored. Could more money and effort be invested? Of course. But some pretty robust battles are being (and have been) fought every day against these diseases. To say otherwise is a real slap in the face to the soldiers in those "wars".<br><br>
we flew back from denver on monday afternoon. when we went through security, my son (age 4) had a canteen he bought when we were hiking in the rockies. i told him to empty it and i saw that he was doing that in the hotel room. what i didn't know is that he promptly filled it back up in case he got thirsty on the plane. well, security caught it in his bag. they freaked. i had to beg them not to throw it away. finally, security told me i could exit the security area and empty the contents and then come back in. they even gave me a certificate to enter where the pilots enter so i wouldn't have to stand in line. i existed and went around a corner to a bathroom. i emptied the canteen and went back with my certificate. they didn't make me remove my shoes; they didn't check the canteen to see that i emptied it; they didn't even pay attention to me once they saw the certificate. i just walked through and joined my family and continued right along. <br><br>i wonder if a terrorist could easily make one of those certificates and breeze right past security? it sure made me nervous thinking about it.<br><br>--<br>"I am mindful that diversity is one of the strengths of the country" --president bush on 9/27/05
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