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#284647 - 08/17/06 09:22 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Common sense tells me that this water bottle will be nothing but a water bottle by the time the 'investigation' is fully concluded.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>that's as maybe, but isn't it prudent to investigate positive explosive test results. Not like this woman was profiled, and she was dumb enough to ignore the travel advisory to check liquids. And if the "water" had been an explosive and a plane had been blow up then what?<br><br>I seem to recall the praise some overzealous border guard on the Canadian border back in late 2000 received for stopping some guy - who just happened to be planning to set off explosives at LAX...... well that was the official story.<br><br><br>- This is gonna get pretty interesting. <br>- Define "interesting". <br>- Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die..
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#284648 - 08/17/06 09:32 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men
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Yes, it most likely will be just a water bottle, so what? Most likely she takes Nitroglycerine for her heart. People who take nitro will frequently set off explosives detectors, esp. items like shoes where they sweat. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be detained. Especially if a dog reacts, because dogs don't react to trace amounts like a swab test would.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Next time you're in a grocery store, duck for cover - there's rows of waterbottles that haven't been tested for explosives.<p><hr></blockquote><p>And unfortunately like this board, there are people with lame senses of humor.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!<
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#284649 - 08/17/06 09:46 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men [Re: garyW]
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What would Maynard say, eh?<br><br>. . . . . Here's lookin' at [color:red]you</font color=red> kid.
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#284650 - 08/17/06 11:14 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men
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This is just small propaganda. The UK and US are up to something agian and started preparing the population. Hope that not many will die this time.<br><br>_________________________________________<br>Just a different kinda geek...
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#284651 - 08/18/06 05:30 AM Re: The United States of Girlie Men [Re: yoyo52]
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#284652 - 08/18/06 11:50 AM Re: The United States of Girlie Men
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Update on news story:<br><br>[color:blue]Chemical tests later Thursday turned up no explosives in the bottles, said <br>Capt. Jack Chambers, head of the State Police Special Operations unit. The <br>airport was reopened after nearly 10 hours.</font color=blue><br><br>Yup, the Terrorists have won. Bottled water will close down an airport for<br>10 hours.<br><br><br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>

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#284653 - 08/18/06 01:07 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men
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I'll grant you that people are now jumping at their own shadows. Even the veracity of the U.K bust is now questionable. Thew whole thing seems utterly ridiculous. But, there could have been an explosive in that water bottle. If something in the bottle tripped a sensor, don't you think it's wise to evaluate it and dismiss the threat? To say we're being "girlie men" is no different then "Bring 'em on!". Despite all the gaffs we've seen, you just can't be cavalier with people's lives and safety. I was living in Manhattan last year when the NYPD started that random security screening in the subway system. A PIA, yes. But better safe than sorry.<br><br>The terrorists are undoubtedly laughing at us. No question about it, IMHO. But have they really won? Maybe when they do manage to blow up another plane or bring down another landmark.<br><br>
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#284654 - 08/18/06 01:43 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men [Re: steveg]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>you just can't be cavalier with people's lives and safety<p><hr></blockquote><p>Hypocrites like IC would be the first one to cry foul when a test reveals something could be explosive, but the security agent lets the person through because "it just looked like bottled water", but in reality is a nice acetone concoction that blows a hole in the side of a plane.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!<
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#284655 - 08/18/06 01:54 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men [Re: SgtBaxter]
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Even if you concede that we've largely created this environment as a result of our totally fukkedup foreign policy and Keystone Cops approach to national security, the situation none-the-less exists, and has to be taken seriously.<br><br>The next time over-reaction stops a real threat, the Boyz in Qlub Qaeda will stop chuckling in a hurry. Until the next attempt, anyway.<br><br>
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#284656 - 08/18/06 01:56 PM Re: The United States of Girlie Men [Re: steveg]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> Despite all the gaffs we've seen, you just can't be cavalier with people's lives and safety.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Not to sound morbid, but the odds of dying are 100% or 1 in 1. The leading <br>causes of death are - <br><br>Heart Disease - 1 in 5<br>Cancer - 1 in 7<br>Stroke - 1 in 24<br>Motor Vehicle Accident - 1 in 84<br>Suicide - 1 in 119<br>Falling - 1 in 218<br>Firearm Assault - 1 in 314<br>Pedestrian Accident - 1 in 626<br>Drowning - 1 in 1006<br>Motorcycle Accident - 1 in 1020<br>Fire or smoke - 1 in 1113<br>Bicycle accident - 1 in 4919<br>Air/Space Accident - 1 in 5051<br>Accidental firearm discharge - 1 in 5134<br>Accidental electrocution - 1 in 9968<br>Alcohol poisoning - 1 in 10,048<br>Hot weather - 1 in 13,729<br>Hornet, wasp or bee sting - 1 in 56,789<br>Legal Execution - 1 in 62,468<br>Lightning - 1 in 79,746<br>Earthquake - 1 in 117,127<br>Flood - 1 in 114,156<br>Fireworks discharge - 1 in 340,733<br><br>source - August 2006, National Geographic<br><br>Dying from a terrorist attack is not even on the list. But at the bottom<br>is Fireworks discharge, which we cavalierly celebrate every July 4th despite<br>the risk of death <br><br>Makes you wonder why 300 billion dollars is spent on a war when it could<br>be spent on some of the more important leading causes of death, like let's <br>say the top two. <br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>

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