link<br><br>IMHO, presenting the resolution to Lebanon and Israel probably should have been predicated upon an immediate (if only temporary) withdrawal of Israeli forces first. Instead, Israel now is going for broke over the next day or two, which will probably triple or quadruple the amount of damage and civilian casualties.<br><br>Israel does not believe in half measures or baby steps. To a degree, justifiably so, because incremental progress can prove fatal in the Middle East. But swinging for the fence now does not bode well for the region.<br><br>I don't think the UN has mapped out the progression in the best possible way.<br><br>
Well the Israelis say they don't want to withdraw until UN or other forces can replace them. Don't want to leave voids. I can see why, if that's really the reason.<br>I don't see how Israel can claim victory.. sure they've done damage to Hezbollah, but they have aslo created as much collateral damage to enhance future problems with its neighbors. It's a "Pyrric victory" at best.<br><br>Interesting our little Condi was ready for a cease fire now, when the sht started she was NOT. Didn't they say then a cease fire would be basically worthless.<br><br>AS Murtha said "WE -USA - are probably the biggest threat to world peace!" I don't thnik thats so, ..but it's not THAT far from the truth with Bush and his Neocon derelicts running the show.<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
Loc: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
All I can see around me are angry people willing to die just to get rid of Israel. I'm talking about normal people I see around me here, or the Arab acquaintances on the internet. I'm sure the anger and hate will be fed to future generations by both Israelis and Arabs, which will not result in peace no matter what anybody does..<br><br>All I can see is a great massacre that will devour both sides, with no apparent win to any side... So sad I could cry..<br><br>---<br>www.waleedsgallery.biz
You just validated what I've been trying to tell a certain few others here: That there is no easy way out of this mess. That is has been going on for so long that most have forgotten what started it in the first place. Any sense, any logic has long since disappeared. And that is why you can't just say "STOP!", and expect anyone to listen. It has become a self-perpetuating war of words and deeds, and probably a self-fulfilling prophecy. This is an argument in which no one is right, and everyone is wrong. <br><br>And when it comes to the point where the wish to see an entire people vaporized is considered a solution, we should all feel like crying.<br><br>
#283918 - 08/13/0605:39 AMRe: This could be a flaw in the UN mid-east resolution
Should be interesting what Israel determines to be "offensive" or "defensive"<br>military action.<br><br>Hopefully dropping bombs on civilians was an "offensive" military operation<br>and now they'll finally stop, that is if the peace agreement actually is abided by.<br><br>I don't have much hope that this agreement is going to have a "lasting" peace<br>like the US wanted. It seems there isn't much "beef" considering the US dragged<br>it's heels for 30 days hammering out an agreement which is basically status<br>quo.<br><br>Edit: Although, I bet Condi did buy a couple of great pair of shoes in the meantime.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by IronChef on 08/13/06 01:45 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
If this is true, there will be little more than a time out. I'm sure it's not lost on the Israelis. With Iran and Syria providing encouragement and support to Hezbollah, if you were Israel — knowing what that alliance's agenda is — can you tell me you wouldn't be taking the good offense is the best defense position? If post-cease-fire control of Lebanon does fall into Hezbollah's hand, Israel can abide by the terms and find itself toasted like an onion bagel — complete with the hole in the middle.<br><br>You can point to U.S. foot dragging all you want (and I won't disagree with you). But even with more timely and aggressive policy making, the tensions wouldn't have been mitigated.<br><br>I'll say it again and again... the Middle East conflict is far too complex and deep seated to be forever quelled by the stroke of a pen.<br><br>
Just read this in the NYTimes.<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The deal buys a period of calm, at best, and sets the region up for the next war with Tehran's proxy army, critics said. The truce will be ''a time-out until the next confrontation, and maybe not even this,'' commentator Nahum Barnea wrote in Israel's Yediot Ahronot daily.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Now where'd I hear that before? <br><br>
Hezbollah gaining strength where democracy once dwelt<br>Of all the opinions, about what the outcome of this mess will be, I think this article written by Rashid Khalidi, a professor of Arab studies at the Middle East Institute at Columbia University<br>Published August 13, 2006 says it best .....a very scary outlook...Bush's "Bring um on mentality" is coming home to roost...<br>The idea that this or any other Lebanese government will act against Hezbollah after the fighting ends is therefore perfect fantasy. The "successes" of American and French diplomacy over the last year in driving a wedge between Lebanese and isolating Hezbollah, a futile exercise in any case, have gone up in the smoke of Israeli air raids on every part of Lebanon.<br>In their place is bitter anger at the United States, which has once more shown that neither Lebanese democracy nor Arab civilian casualties, nor anything else in the Arab world, counts in American calculations when Israel's perceived interests (and President Bush's "war on terror") are at stake.<br>Link <br><br>
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