that they're FUBAR jaded and rapturist jihadist dissn' reality<br><br>OF THE HARDCORE LIFERS IN AMERICA FKRZ:<br>http://terrorhc.com<br><br>and yes<br>we gots hell to pay<br>some things just don't wash away<br><br>fight<br>reclaim<br><br>it's that simple<br>now leadership is null and void<br>it's dangerous<br>evil monsters I hear<br>power hunger<br>then cancer early and they wonder<br>why<br><br>we know the fck why<br>again, we're not all jailed<br>so their turn to feel the PAIN<br><br>HOME FREE<br><br>http://floridafolkartist.blogspot.com-captured demons, expressions and whatever you wanna make of it.
OK, it's apparent it was a real threat.<br><br>I read that the origin of uncovering the plot was a tip just after the tube bombing back in 2004. Someone in the Muslim community in London phoned in a tip to Scotland Yard which was investigated and for almost 2 years they tracked these guys. <br><br>IF we hear W (which I'm sure we will) utter that this is evidence to do more phone tapping and invasion of privacy- I'll SCREAM. <br>This was a prime example of "old-fashioned" tip and surveillance work... phone tapping had nothing to do with the origin of the counterintelligence. Maybe they did that later, and I hope with court oversight. But the origin was a ordinary phone call tip to SY.<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
The sorry thing is that we could actually wonder how valid this new "foiled plot" was. It will be interesting, and perhaps revealing, over the next week or so to learn more details. Reports this morning are: There were no airline tickets discovered, no trial run plan, no date set for a practice flight or the actual deed.<br><br>Right now, it does look as though this was very serious, but then, the administration screamed bloody US murder about the gang that couldn't shoot straight down in Miami.<br><br>It's demoralizing that I don't trust my government on something this important.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:blue]My my baby blue . . .
And although the plot was to blow planes up over US cities... our intelligence community didn't have a clue! The Patriot Act and the current admin didn't protect us from terrorists... the Brits did!<br><br>Bush and Co. are too busy planning the invasion of Iran to be bothered with domestic anything.<br><br>
"Bush and Co. are too busy planning the invasion of Iran to be bothered with domestic anything."<br><br>As much as we talk about that, does anyone really think that is going to happen unless things get a lot worse. I am sure the US govt is trying (trying!) to plan for contingencies, but even our current administration can't be that stupid. At the beginning when the hawks thought a secured Iraq would give us "leverage" in the ME there was more focused talk of action in Iran, but now? Iran is larger and more populous than Iraq, it is nominally (nominally!) democratic, and it is mostly composed of Shiite Muslims, so there is no ethnic/religious division to exploit as we did so masterfully (masterfully!) in Iraq. Many in Iran oppose their ideological and repressive govt but they are virtually 100 percent united in agreement that they can have nuclear power and, hell, nuclear weapons if they damn well please, thank you, and would certainly be 100 percent against an invasion of their country. AND the entire Muslim world (like a good chunk of a billlion people) would finally be certain that we did indeed intend to dominate the Muslim world (and they would be right, wouldn't they?) We would have a worldwide jihad(or at the very least ME wide). It aint gonna happen even if Iran gets nukes, I'll bet ya.<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
_________________________ We are what we repeatedly do - Aristotle
The support for the war is waining (>60% disapprove), to take on Iran we'd need a Draft... I don't think they're that stupid, but they have surprised me before. That would insure they'd lose both houses of Congress - unless they pulled that sht after Nov. <br><br>If they retain both houses after Nov. they might get tempted to be stupid. Let's hope NOT. (on both statements)<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
Apparently the U.S. was in the loop almost from the beginning of the investigation. To the point that there was supposedly a disagreement btwn the U.S. and the U.K. as to when the bust should go down. The Brits wanted to wait another week to make sure no loose ends were left, and because the British courts have stiffer evidence criteria in terrorism cases. But the U.S. insisted that the arrests be made sooner so they could make hay with the story.<br><br>
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