<br>NUP! <br><br>which is why I called it "The RIGHT" Side <br><br>but then I also feel that The RIGHTSIDE <br>set this whole thing up as a take-over.<br><br>Technically, that puts US on the winning side.<br>Not to say that that's the CORRECT side...<br><br>...but I'm just as certain that they will also <br>triumph ...in the end.... <br> <br><br>
Under GW - No ! ....but that doesn't make it right.<br><br>The question is what is a reasonable response?<br><br>The Neos use the same analogy with Mexico... yes we'd respond BUT if we leveled Mexico city as a response, it'd still be irresponsible, wreckless, and unjustified.<br><br>It's like if someone punched you and you pull a gun out and shoot them. Was that level response justified ? No.<br>And the righties always say anyone who shoots someone else and kills them should "hang" for murder (remember GW values human life) well this isn't much better - to kill innocent women and children.<br><br>The biggest argument against it is not on this basis, but ask the question, "will this solve the problem??" and you know the answer is NO- so why condone it ?<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
I'm guessing here....<br>...but you've never read T.H.White's "The Once & Future King"<br>...specifically: "The Book of Merlyn"... have you.<br><br>It brings into sharp question the issue of "Right" vs "Might".<br><br>
Apples and oranges, Clark. The only common denominator being that war eats sh!t. There is no comparison between the two conflicts. Just for starters, the U.S. itself hasn't existed for but a fraction of the time the ideology clash in the Middle East has been going on. You have to go back virtually thousands of years to get to the roots of today's conflict between Israel and its neighbors. We're talking about differences and hatred that haven't been resolved in all that time. Israel as a state is just a contemporary skin on an old skeleton.<br><br>
Which brings up another question:<br><br>When I was trying to figure out who was who, who did what, & when<br>I soon realized that "the chosen people" had first been welcomed by<br>yet later rejected by many powerful civilizations Knowing only the<br>familiar Biblical stories Joseph's entrance into Egypt, ...and later the<br>Exodus, lead by Moses', Joshua, Aaron and so forth...<br><br>Among these Once-Great-Civilizations are such names as:<br>Urr, Egypt, Babylon, Rome, Spain, England, Germany, Russia, Palastine<br><br>Sorry, Mate... that starts to sound a bit like that <br>"Everybody's Out of Step But MY Johnny" joke I told the other day.<br><br>The next logical question, of course, is "Is it now OUR Turn?" The USA?<br>which of course begs the question, will it lead to our eventual downfall<br>as well?<br><br><br>
I've always queried the Mexico is the same thing argument. I'd accept a scenario that had, say, MS13 attacking US cities from Mexico being more in line with the Hezbollah/Israel deal.<br><br>Trying to compare Iran or Syria attacking US troops in Iraq isn't really cut in the same cloth - there you're having an independent Country. Hezbollah isn't representative of a country, at least the guys with guns aren't.<br><br><br>- This is gonna get pretty interesting. <br>- Define "interesting". <br>- Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die..
_________________________ I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>but ask the question, "will this solve the problem??"<p><hr></blockquote><p>I'll bet Hezbollah will think twice about kidnapping Israeli soldiers the next time around.<br><br>
Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert continued to defy international pressure for a cease-fire, saying that fighting would end only when Israel recovers the two soldiers Hezbollah guerrillas captured in the cross-border raid that sparked the current crisis.<br><br>"We are determined to succeed in this struggle," Olmert said. "We will not give up on our goal to live a life free of terror."<br><br>
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