I'm sure Israel will flatten more apartment buildings in Beirut in retaliation,<br>err I mean 'self defence' today, tonight, tomorrow. This of course, won't<br>stop the rockets being fired by Hezbollah, because that's not where the <br>rockets are. But is sure is safer to drop bombs on buildings than actually<br>fight the enemy where they are - on the ground and in the south.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>

I should know better than to present another perspective on this topic. Your single-mindedness is quite clear. There is only one bad guy in this fight, and it sure ain't Hezbollah.<br><br>We now return you to our regularly scheduled bias.<br><br>

The topic of this thread is "Israel - the new world Terrorists" so I'm just<br>presenting the facts of what Israel is doing to earn this label - Terrorists.<br><br>What Hezbollah is or isn't doing, doesn't change the facts of what Israel<br>is doing, which is under the guise of 'self defense' they are indiscriminately<br>bombing all of Lebanon killing innocent civilians and terrorizing the whole <br>population while claiming to fight a 'terrorist' group that at the most has<br>several hundrend militant members and few thousand supporters.<br><br>This action is unjustifiable and labeling Hezbollah a terrorist group while<br>not labeling Israel a terrorist state is hypocritical.<br><br>We have new words such as terrorism, pre-emptive strikes, collateral damage,<br>to justify our actions and results. These words are the single-minded thoughts<br>that can only be applied to one side of the conflict. Words of convenience.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>

Yes. It's quite obvious what you're pointing out. But it's also clear that you've chosen to completely ignore the very long and convoluted history of this and other conflicts in the Middle East, wherein there has been no single, clear cut white hat or black hat. I have no argument that what Israel has been doing is overkill. And I've stated that often. But to ignore history. To take the position that the conflict is and always has been a no-brainer is, well... you said it yourself: convenient.<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>But it's also clear that you've chosen to completely ignore the very long and convoluted history of this and other conflicts in the Middle East<p><hr></blockquote><p>I guess what you're trying to say is (or more correctly - what I'm reading into this), <br>History has created a moral bank account out there that Israel can withdrawal<br> some immorality today and should not be labeled a terrorist state because<br> there is some 'moral' balance left in that account?<br><br>So, how much morality is in this account. Is there enough for them to drop<br>an atomic bomb on Beirut? Enough for them fire a few ICBM's at Syria and Iran<br>who are supporting Hezbollah. When does it run out, or perhaps it won't<br>run out at all. If so, then that would definitely be single minded.<br><br>What purpose does factoring in the "very long and convoluted history of this"<br>then to handicap the evaluation of actions today to favor one side or the other.<br><br><br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>What Hezbollah is or isn't doing, doesn't change the facts of what Israel<br>is doing,<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>And what Israel is doing doesn't change the fact the people of Lebanon were pacifists in letting Hezbollah attack Israel from their soil, so they're just as guilty as anyone else in this conflict. I'd say that makes the "innocent" label you give them little more than laughable. Especially if Hezbollah only has a few hundred members as you'd like us to think. Not only does that make them guilty, it makes them stupid as well.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!<

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The Israeli's are nice enought to drop leavelets before destroying these<br>people's homes.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>They need to go back, looks like they missed a few.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!<

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And what Israel is doing doesn't change the fact the people of Lebanon were pacifists in letting Hezbollah attack Israel from their soil, so they're just as guilty as anyone else in this conflict. I'd say that makes the "innocent" label you give them little more than laughable.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I see, being a pacifist makes you stupid, guilty and is perfectly justfiable to <br>kill them indescriminately. Nice world you want to live in.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Especially if Hezbollah only has a few hundred members as you'd like us to think.<p><hr></blockquote><p>What I'd like you to think? Hmmm...<br><br>what I said - "while claiming to fight a 'terrorist' group that at the most <br>has several hundrend militant members and few thousand supporters."<br><br>what the US state department says - "Thousands of supporters, several<br> thousand members, and a few hundred terrorist operatives."<br><br>http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2005/65275.htm<br><br>I didn't count the Hezbollah numbers, the US state department did.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>They need to go back, looks like they missed a few.<p><hr></blockquote><p>That after photo was taken July 22, they just might have gone back to<br>get the buildings they missed.<br><br><br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I see, being a pacifist makes you stupid, guilty and is perfectly justfiable to<br>kill them indescriminately. Nice world you want to live in.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Sorry if I paint the world the way it is.<br><br><br><br>Hey I'm an F'n Jerk!<

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And what Israel is doing doesn't change the fact the people of Lebanon were pacifists in letting Hezbollah attack Israel from their soil, so they're just as guilty as anyone else in this conflict. I'd say that makes the "innocent" label you give them little more than laughable. Especially if Hezbollah only has a few hundred members as you'd like us to think. Not only does that make them guilty, it makes them stupid as well.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I agree with you word for word.<br>But on this forum that is an unpopular stance to take.<br><br>