#280907 - 07/31/0608:39 AMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Hmmm. I guess I have my answer. Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait for the 24-hour bombing halt to end (and sadly, I assume it will) so we can be treated to new guilt pictures of the "worthy" children.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Sorry for the delay, but I spent time with my wife and kids and didn't have time to respond on a discussion board.<br><br>In response to <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Where is your outrage? Or are you cool with the death of those youthful "terrorists"?<p><hr></blockquote><p>No I'm not cool with Hezbollah firing a 100 or so rockets into Northern Israel.<br>These rockets are unguided and there is only one military purpose to firing <br>them and that is to terrorize the population of Israel. I believe that Israel has<br>the right to defend itself just like any other country.<br><br>What I'm not cool with is Israel is not defending itself. It has launched a <br>compaign of indescriminatly bombing all of Lebanon killing hundreds of<br>civilians, which one third of them are children. At the same time Israel has<br>bombed roads, told people to leave and when they do, Israel kills civilians<br>in their vehicles that are trying to flee.<br><br>If an armed intruder enters my house I have the right to self defense. I don't<br>have to right to kill the intruder's family and anyone that is associated with<br>the intruder. This is what Israel is doing - they are not fighting Hezbollah<br>directly and defending themselves.<br><br>I have yet to hear Israel claim responsibility for the deaths of any Lebanese<br>civilian. I only hear either they are justified or somehow it was Hezbollah's <br>fault. Meanwhile, our leaders stand by and justify Israel's actions.<br><br>How can we morally call Hezbollah a terrrorist, while the actions of Israel<br>are even worse then the Terrorists they are fighting?<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
#280908 - 07/31/0608:51 AMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I have yet to hear Israel claim responsibility for the deaths of any Lebanese civilian. I only hear either they are justified or somehow it was Hezbollah's fault. Meanwhile, our leaders stand by and justify Israel's actions.<p><hr></blockquote><p>And what do you think the 24-hour bombing halt is all about? A day late and a dollar short, and hardly a satisfactory apology. But they have acknowledged their wrong-doing in this most recent and tragic bombing.<br><br>Israel's biggest mistake has been in assuming that they could quickly drive Hezbollah far enough from the border to establish security. The fact that they have failed, yet continue to pursue that strategy, is why the bombing has been so intense for this long, and has claimed so many lives. Israels' intent is not to kill Lebanese civilians. I think we can all agree that a modified battle plan may have been less costly in human life.<br><br>
**Answer:<br>Just so they can claim what you're claiming now<br>but in the eyes of the entire world, not just a single post/thread/forum<br><br>Question:<br>Why does Israel make it a condition that Lebanon expell <br>Hezbellah when everyone (well everyone but Americans)<br>already knows that Israel failed in their attempt to do so For YEARS!<br><br>Exactly WHAT will ONE DAY accomplish? ((see Answer**))<br><br>
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#280910 - 07/31/0609:31 AMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And what do you think the 24-hour bombing halt is all about? A day late and a dollar short, and hardly a satisfactory apology. But they have acknowledged their wrong-doing in this most recent and tragic bombing.<p><hr></blockquote><p>[color:blue]Following the incident that occurred yesterday morning, Sunday, July <br>30, 2006, in Qana, the IDF reiterates that the attack was carried out as a <br>result of the continuation over the last few days of rocket fire from the <br>targeted area against Israeli communities. Residents of all villages in the <br>vicinity, including Qana, were warned in advance to stay out of areas from <br>which rockets are launched against Israel.<br><br>"IDF acted tonight against terror targets in the village of Qana. Qana has <br>been used since the beginning of these events as a hideout and the place <br>from which approximately 150 rockets have been fired at the territory of the <br>State of Israel, in 30 salvos, some of which struck Haifa and points north," <br>said Major General Gadi Eizenkot, head of the Operations Branch, today.<br><br>IDF is distressed by all harm done to uninvolved civilians, despite the fact <br>that it comes as a direct result of the Hezbollah terror organization's criminal <br>exploitation of Lebanese civilians as human shields. "Even after this tragic <br>event, the circumstances of which are still being investigated, we appeal to <br>the residents of southern Lebanon to distance themselves from terrorists, to <br>distance themselves from launch areas, for their own safety," said Major <br>General Eizenkot.</font color=blue><br><br>http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=7&from=hp&docid=55356.EN<br><br>Maybe I'm just reading this differently than you, but I still see plenty of <br>references to blaiming Hezbollah for Israeli bombs killing civilians and not<br>taking full responsiblity.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
#280911 - 07/31/0609:51 AMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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Of course Israel is still blaming Hezbollah for much of the bombing, because in fact Hezbollah is using civilians as human shields and launching rockets from residential areas. Should Israel sit on it's ass and let the rockets come?<br><br>What Israel needs to do is face the fact that the air strikes are not the answer. They are killing too many of the wrong people and not routing Hezbollah. As costly as it will be in lives, they need to take the fight to the ground. Street to street and house. Many more soldiers will die. But far fewer civilians will.<br><br>Unless, of course, a cease fire occurs, or that multi-national force happens out of nowhere.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>f course Israel is still blaming Hezbollah for much of the bombing, because in fact Hezbollah is using civilians as human shields and launching rockets from residential areas. Should Israel sit on it's ass and let the rockets come?<br><br>What Israel needs to do is face the fact that the air strikes are not the answer. They are killing too many of the wrong people and not routing Hezbollah. As costly as it will be in lives, they need to take the fight to the ground. Street to street and house. Many more soldiers will die. But far fewer civilians will.<br><br>Unless, of course, a cease fire occurs, or that multi-national force happens out of nowhere.<p><hr></blockquote><p>In reality, the air strikes are working. Hezbollah is being routed and miscalculated the effects of their actions. A building collapsing approximately 8 hours after being bombed is indicative of incendiary causes, as is congregating or firing from a UN outpost location.<br><br>Street to street and house to house is exactly what Hezbollah wants. Any casualties resulting would still be deemed civilian.<br><br>No, Israel has no other choice. <br><br><br> <br><br>got to let your eyes adjust
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