#280897 - 07/26/0605:00 PMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<br>Steven Harper, Canadian Prime Minister. Slightly retarded, still learning.<br><br>CTV news of Canadian UN peacekeeper killed in Lebanon<br><br>[color:blue]"We want to find out why this United Nations post was attacked and <br>also why it remained manned during what is now, more or less, a war during <br>obvious danger to these individuals," said Harper.<br><br>The attack is becoming a major international incident for Israel, already under <br>criticism for rising civilian casualties in Lebanon.<br><br>But Harper doubted whether the Israeli attack was deliberate, "given that the <br>government of Israel has been co-operating with us in our evacuation efforts, <br>in our efforts to move Canadian citizens out of Lebanon and also trying to <br>keep our own troops that are on the ground involved in the evacuation out of <br>harm's way."</font color=blue><br><br>My comment: I can't believe he's actually running a country.<br><br>Hello Mr. Harper,<br><br>UN peacekeepers have been in the same spot since 1972. They were blue<br>helmets and have outposts with big letters 'UN' painted on the side of them.<br>It should be no surprise to the Irsaeli Air Force with sophisticated laser <br>guided bombs that if they hit one of these outposts UN peace keepers will be killed.<br><br>I'm surprised you are actually surprised that Israel could possibly be killing<br>and murdering people in Lebanon. Maybe it's time to rethink your comment<br>that Israel has the right to defend itself.<br><br>IronChef.<br><br>ps - the reason you are evacuating Canadians is because Israel is indiscriminantly <br>bombing Lebanon, murdering innocent civlians. Canadian Citizenship doesn't<br>provide immunity. To date 9 Canadian citizens have been murdered.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
#280898 - 07/27/0605:23 AMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<br>The "World" has granted Israel permission to execute this lady.<br><br>[color:blue]Israel says the decision by diplomats not to call for a halt to its Lebanon <br>offensive at a Middle East summit has given it the green light to continue.<br><br>"We received yesterday at the Rome conference permission from the world... <br>to continue the operation," Justice Minister Haim Ramon said.</font color=blue><br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5219360.stm<br>-------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
#280900 - 07/30/0611:25 AMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<br>History repeats itself in Qana, Lebanon<br><br>[color:blue]More than 54 civilians, at least 34 of them children, have been killed in <br>a town in south Lebanon in the deadliest Israeli strike of the conflict so far.<br><br>Displaced families had been sheltering in the basement of a house in Qana, <br>which was crushed after a direct hit.</font color=blue><br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5228224.stm<br><br>In 1996, Israel killed over 100 civilians when it bombed a UN base where<br>civilians where taking refuge. Back then it 'blamed' Hezbollah as well.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
#280901 - 07/30/0612:05 PMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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Has it occurred to you that had Hezbollah released the kidnapped soldiers, and stopped lobbing hundreds of missiles a day into Israel that maybe — just maybe — a resolution might already be in the works? Has it occurred to you that had the Lebanese gov't done what it should have done a long time ago — dismantle Hezbollah — that this conflict might never have happened? Has it occurred to you that Hezbollah, knowing that Israel would go totally postal, has capitalized on it at the expense of hundreds of Lebanese civilians? It may be Israeli jets and tanks doing the killing in Lebanon, but my money says Hezbollah wanted it that way to suit their political agenda. Has it occurred to you that as wrong as Israel's actions are, Hezbollah is every bit as complicit in this massacre?<br><br><br><br><br><br>Didn't think so.<br><br>
#280902 - 07/30/0612:39 PMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Has it occurred to you that had Hezbollah released the kidnapped soldiers, and stopped lobbing hundreds of missiles a day into Israel that maybe — just maybe — a resolution might already be in the works?<p><hr></blockquote><p>It would seem that the US is the only country not supporting a resolution.<br>I find the US is in conflict of interest, insisting on a resolution that is based<br>on their principles while supplying the arms in the conflict to one participant.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Has it occurred to you that had the Lebanese gov't done what it should have done a long time ago — dismantle Hezbollah — that this conflict might never have happened?<p><hr></blockquote><p>The lebanese government never pretended to be able to dismantle all the militia's<br>in south lebanon quickly. However the process was well under way with<br>Hezbollah transforming from militia to participation in democratic elections.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Has it occurred to you that Hezbollah, knowing that Israel would go totally postal, has capitalized on it at the expense of hundreds of Lebanese civilians?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Actually, a senior Hezbollah spokesperson has already admited they were<br>surprised at Israeli's response to the kidnapping of two soldiers.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> It may be Israeli jets and tanks doing the killing in Lebanon, but my money says Hezbollah wanted it that way to suit their political agenda. Has it occurred to you that as wrong as Israel's actions are, Hezbollah is every bit as complicit in this massacre?<p><hr></blockquote><p>I haven't said that Hezbollah is not responsible for lighting the match. But<br>Israel, who is supposedly a civilized country, threw gasoline on the fire and<br>the US was quick to declare Israel has a right to defend herself. In the process<br>Israel has now killed more children then fighting men and caused more destruction<br>and terror in the last 15 days then Hezbollah has caused in 24 years.<br><br>Has it occured to you that Hezbollah has only had three demands?<br> - the release of Lebanese prisoners<br> - the maps to mines that Israel planted in Lebanon<br> - Israeli withdrawal from all occupied terroritories.<br><br>Has it occured to you that if the US didn't supply 4.5 billion dollars in<br>aid to Israel (somebody has to pay for the bombs) while giving Lebanon<br>only 20 million in aid, Lebanon might have been able to do more to secure<br>it's own borders.<br><br>And finally, has it occured to you that bombing all of Lebanon hasn't stopped<br>Hezbollah from firing misiles? It's only killed children.<br><br><br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
#280903 - 07/30/0612:56 PMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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It's all occurred to me. You see, despite your earlier assumptions, I read the news. I read both sides of the story. I understand some of the history of the region. And it's occurred to me that this is, has been, and probably always will be a lot more complex than good guys and bad guys. It is not just black and white. And it occurs to me that just because Hezbollah's "demands" only total three, the depth and meaning of those demands — especially withdrawal from occupied lands — represents a far higher value than "three".<br><br>And as for your last remark, let's go back to item no. one. Hezbollah knew exactly what it was doing when it struck this match.<br><br>
#280904 - 07/30/0601:35 PMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And as for your last remark, let's go back to item no. one. Hezbollah knew exactly what it was doing when it struck this match.<p><hr></blockquote><p>And even if that were true, it doesn't change the fact that Israel has killed<br>over 600 Lebanese civilians, over a third of them children.<br><br>Only Israel can be responsible for Israel's actions.<br><br>[color:red]Allez Cuisine! Bang a gong, it is on</font color=red>
#280905 - 07/30/0601:54 PMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And even if that were true<p><hr></blockquote><p>Speaks volumes about your willingness to accept anything more than a black and white view.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>it doesn't change the fact that Israel has killed over 600 Lebanese civilians, over a third of them children.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Which no one here has denied or condoned. But you keep harping on it as if you and you alone are aware of this fact. If just one child had been killed, it would be just as unacceptable. And though only a fraction as many, Israeli children have been killed and injured by Hezbollah's rockets. Where is your outrage? Or are you cool with the death of those youthful "terrorists"?<br><br>
#280906 - 07/31/0608:08 AMRe: Israel - the new world "Terrorists"
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Where is your outrage? Or are you cool with the death of those youthful "terrorists"?<p><hr></blockquote><p> Hmmm. I guess I have my answer. Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait for the 24-hour bombing halt to end (and sadly, I assume it will) so we can be treated to new guilt pictures of the "worthy" children.<br><br>