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#275808 - 05/11/06 02:00 PM Hello God, its me, Trog
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Oh. You're not God, you're the Bush administration. My bad.<br><br>

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#275809 - 05/11/06 02:17 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: Trog]
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My landline is VOIP through Comcast. But My wireless is Thingular (formerly and soon to once again be AT&T Wieless). And my landline in Boca was Bull South (which owned Thingular). How warm and fuzzy that makes me feel.<br><br>So, what would happen if just half the population just shut off their phones for a week or two. Pull the plug. Close the flip. Total radio silence. Would that give the big three a wee bit of a fiscal cramp? Do you think they might get the *cough* voicemail?<br><br>Oh, and what Bush said about where the calls must originate or terminate? If he says "up", it's a given he means "down".<br><br>I'm smelling smoke... <br><br>
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#275810 - 05/11/06 02:40 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: Trog]
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I'll be damned!<br><br>Now the Bush administration is going to know how many times I've called granny each December to get her super secret christmas cookie recipe.<br><br>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!<br><br>***********************<br>[color:red]Nice Try</font color=red>
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#275811 - 05/11/06 02:45 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: MattMac112]
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But Matt, what business is it of the Gov't how often you call Granny or what you discuss? Sure, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear. But the scope of this -- if this information is accurate -- is staggering. A colonoscopy would be less invasive!<br><br>
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#275812 - 05/11/06 02:56 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: MattMac112]
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Let me just make sure I understand correctly... you support the government <strike>listening into</strike> monitoring all its citizens calls? You honestly do?<br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Trog on 05/11/06 11:18 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>

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#275813 - 05/11/06 03:08 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: Trog]
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This isn't the government listening in to your phone calls, it's them collecting the phone records, from the phone companies, of who called whom, when and for how long. So they know Matt called his Granny each Christmas - but they don't know if he was trying to find out her secret cookie recipe, singing her Christmas carols, or trying to find out if she liked the present he sent her.<br><br><br>- This is gonna get pretty interesting. <br>- Define "interesting". <br>- Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die..
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#275814 - 05/11/06 03:19 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: Llewelyn]
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You're right, I feel much better now.<br><br>

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#275815 - 05/11/06 03:21 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: Llewelyn]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>This isn't the government listening in to your phone calls<p><hr></blockquote><p>So what? The telcos have no business sharing that information carte blanche with the gov't or any other entity for that matter. And the gov't has no business accepting it. Sharing a carefully targeted group of records based on a specific investigation is one thing (though walking a fine line). Sharing consumer information on such a broad scale is outrageous, and as wrong and mercenary as it gets.<br><br>This admin has its nose as far up Joe Average's ass as it has its head up its own ass. Can you tell me you're comfy knowing your phone records are part of this database? Maybe Amex or Visa are doing the same with your ROCs. Maybe FedEx or UPS are faxing copies of your air bills to the NSA? What's to prevent it?<br><br>Still comfy?<br><br>
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#275816 - 05/11/06 03:23 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: Trog]
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You should. If nothing else, it's taking your mind off that moher-of-all-bombs that's gonna fall on yo' haid! <br><br>
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#275817 - 05/11/06 03:59 PM Re: Hello God, its me, Trog [Re: steveg]
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RIGHT on Steve !! the NSA, or any other Govt agency has NO right to your phone records even IF they don't know the conversation ! It's FSCKING private !!<br><br>ANYone supporting that BS should go live in China or a fascist country.<br><br>And Trog- not to bust your bubble about feeling better... HOW do you know they're not listening and recording many of these phone calls ? because they tell you they're not ? (ie haven't admitted it yet?)<br><br>We'll know for sure when Matt's Grandmother's cookie recipe is listed in The Federal Register !! <br><br>David (OFI)<br>
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