I think the weekly polls are used by MSM to validate that their message is getting through to the public. Current theme is bash Bush - so if the Bush approval drops then they assume that their message is reaching the people. It's all a matter of association - I'm sure Steve will attest to their advertising prowess - say something often enough and people will begin to believe it. <br><br><br>- This is gonna get pretty interesting. <br>- Define "interesting". <br>- Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die..

I was very angry at Clinton to think he thought us that stupid.<br>That said - it didn't kill anyone, it didn't take anyone's job, or healthcare, or kids away... Clinton, Lewinsky were to blame and it affected primarily ONLY them and Hillary and Chelsea.<br><br>I also saw the RR job to get Clinton on anything after they spent $60 million in a witchhunt. Clinton did it to Himself- no one else is to blame.<br>He should have come clean to begin with and it would have passed like a flash!<br><br>But Steve what is so abominal about Bush is he admits nothing, and his apologists following never admit he's done 1 damm thing wrong... what lunatics... "in denial" is beyond their description. <br>FINE... the more they deny - the more stupid they look, and the more people see them for what they are extreme BS artists and con-men... charletans...<br><br>look at these #s<br> HERE <br>69% say the leak was serious - 78% say it was either illegal or unethical.<br>Bush apologize like Reagan or Clinton - Never !!<br>and he lied to us again- said he'd dismiss anyone involved- then weeks later changes his words.<br><br>It's not liberal - it's not conservative- it's just facts .<br><br><br>David (OFI)<br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>say something often enough and people will begin to believe it<p><hr></blockquote><p><embed src="http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/powell_un_feb5_03_1.ram" width="240" height="200" type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" nojava="true" autostart="true" loop="true" controls="ImageWindow" console="hospital"></embed><br><embed src="http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/powell_un_feb5_03_1.ram" width="44" height="26" type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" nojava="true" controls="playbutton" console="hospital"></embed><embed src="http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/powell_un_feb5_03_1.ram" width="26" height="26" type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" nojava="true" controls="stopbutton" console="hospital"></embed><embed src="http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/powell_un_feb5_03_1.ram" width="105" height="26" type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" nojava="true" controls="positionfield" console="hospital"></embed><br><br><br>

Dave, I'm not diminishing for a single minute the seriousness of Bush's "deeds". Nor am I disputing the consequences. BJs don't kill people. The economy remained pretty strong. Starr went over the top and later admitted as much. But at the core of what both Presidents did is a lack of truth and a violation of the public trust. And on that score, I give BOTH men a failing grade.<br><br>Yes, Clinton finally displayed some contrition. Something I know we'll ever see from Bush. But both lied to us. Period. No soup for W, and no soup for bill. <br><br>

You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br>You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br>You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br>You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br>You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br>You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br>You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br>You will send me a case of 50 year old scotch.<br><br><br><br><br><br>*tapping fingers impatiently*<br><br><br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>BJs don't kill people.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Only if you don't inhale! <br><br><br>- This is gonna get pretty interesting. <br>- Define "interesting". <br>- Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die..

Well, I guess I wouldn't turn down a killer BJ... <br><br>

He cheated on his wife.<br>Well, I STILL think Bill acted like a pig.<br>(I'm a woman, what would you expect?)<br><br>But as a human, I understand what he did<br>and why he did it even if I still can't<br>condone his misuse of the Office, as well<br>as the office.<br><br>I've always felt that when caught, he did<br>what the majority of men would do that <br>didn't want their wife to know the truth,<br>he lied, and once that was done, there <br>no extricating himself. <br><br>As a American, <br>even though I didn't approve, I still wasn't <br>mortally embarrassed. Face it, the heads<br>of several nations even CONGRATULATED<br>him. wateveah.<br><br>but I was STILL and always WILL resent<br>the hell out of him putting himself and<br>by extension US in the situation to allow<br>Ken Starr and the neoHOARD to completely<br>stymie and derail his entire 2nd term.<br><br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Well, I guess I wouldn't turn down a killer BJ... <p><hr></blockquote><p>That Willie Nelson line about the girls in Vegas: "She could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch."<br><br><br><br><br><br>(__*__) <-- circular sig when standing

I rest my case.<br><br>