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#247539 - 09/14/05 10:56 AM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: Celandine]
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Talk about SPLITTING HAIRS!<br><br>"I take responsibility" not the same as "I fukked up"? PR motivation or not, it's still beats the heck out of total avoidance. And if anything, it's finally an acknowledgment that the buck indeed stops with him.<br><br>It doesn't undo the damage, but I'll take it until all the information is in. But I guess you won't be satisfied 'til he publicly disembowels himself with a rusty fork! And then you'll probably want to shoot the buzzards that snack on his carrion, too.<br><br>We all want to know who screwed up. When, how, and most importantly, why, so it doesn't happen again. Lynching before the indictments are even handed down will solve nothing.<br><br>In case you're wondering, this is an example of why I used that "H" word that you took exception to a few days ago.<br><br>
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#247540 - 09/14/05 11:14 AM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: steveg]
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1) Thats a pretty wide hair, there, Buckeroo!<br>You'd need a LOG-SPLITTER for That one. <br><br>2) I'll even offer to supply the fork.<br><br>3) He needs to just GtFOutta' Dodge<br>before he perpetrates AnyMORE Crimes.<br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>
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#247541 - 09/14/05 11:40 AM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: Celandine]
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Ok. So he should resign immediately. And leave us with Cheney? Now there's a great option. <br><br>My point is that you are so all-consumed with your hatred of Bush that you are unable/unwilling to accept the reality that -- in the case of Katrina -- others dropped the ball, too. And that's not dispersal of blame. It's recognizing the fact that there are many actors in this tragedy.<br><br>As head of state, he has to bear the overall responsibility -- which includes blame for those areas where he's directly hands-on.<br><br>If you insist on draping all blame on him, you're turning a blind eye on others who are also culpable.<br><br>
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#247542 - 09/14/05 11:49 AM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: steveg]
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Yep. I would like to see GW get his come uppance as much as anyone, but laying all or even most of this particular fiasco at his feet (or even his administration's) is too much.<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
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#247543 - 09/14/05 12:16 PM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: lanovami]
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This is all political window dressing. I would like him him to admit something which actually might change something. How about, "It was a mistake to invade Iraq. I take responsibility."<br><br><br><br><br>

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#247544 - 09/14/05 12:30 PM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: polymerase]
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Who's to say he didn't plan Katrina?<br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle
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#247545 - 09/14/05 12:31 PM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: polymerase]
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<br>...and THEN GtFOUT! <br><br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>
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#247546 - 09/14/05 12:44 PM Re: Conyer's Congressional release (as stated) [Re: garyW]
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http://www.opencrs.com/document/M20050912<br><br>

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#247547 - 09/14/05 12:45 PM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: steveg]
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Could ya' help me out here;<br><br>I find a certain 'inconsistency' in the fact as you've previously stated; <br>that you don't have a problem trading your civil rights in return for <br>personal security, yet you continue to support the very person putting <br>your life (and security) at risk while displaying the kind of callous indifference <br>that we've witnessed during the first 5 days following a federal emergency <br>that could have occured anywhere in this country?<br><br>To quote some news reporter(?) or another;<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p><br>If you wanna be a republican, fine. <br>You wanna vote republican, because you're a conservative? Fine- <br><br>But you have to stop viewing politics, and the fate of our nation, <br>as if it were pro football!<br><br>I have to ask all republicans, here, and now: <br>Rats have the brains to leave a sinking ship- <br>why can't you muster the same mental fortitude?<br><br>Stand with the rest of America, and demand accountability <br>from the people whom you rallied around, for so long- <br>they owe you, at the very least, that much...<p><hr></blockquote><p><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>But I guess you won't be satisfied 'til he publicly disembowels himself with a rusty fork!<p><hr></blockquote><p>I'll even offer to supply the flatware.<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Ok. So he should resign immediately. And leave us with Cheney? Now there's a great option.<p><hr></blockquote><p>DICK Cheney Can Go FORK HIMSELF as Well! <br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>
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#247548 - 09/14/05 01:11 PM Re: "I take responsibility" [Re: Celandine]
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Thanks for demonstrating that you've distorted your own reality field, and that you are so distracted by your emotions that you are not paying attention to what anyone else says.<br><br>Please show me where I have "supported" Bush or his administration in the past year. Please provide links -- even one will do -- to statements I've made in "support" of Bush. Please prove to me and anyone else reading these threads that I'm pleased with what the Bush Admin has done to this country.<br><br>Only, please spare me the "eroded civil rights" line. The world has changed. The U.S. has lost it's claim to "NIMBY", and some small sacrifices have to be made now and then. Parts of the Patriot Act are objectionable on a before and after basis. But on balance, I'd still rather live here than any place else in the world.<br><br>So then... got links? Or can you accept the fact that it's possible to be anti-Bush without imploding from pesonal hatred.<br><br>
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