Am I gonna have to separate you two?! <br><br>We are what we repeatedly do. -Aristotle

this one will do (thanx)<br>as you're still doing so by <br>assisting in the blame dispersal<br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>

I can see I'm shoveling sand against the tide. Never mind then. <br><br>

Let me get this straight about your link.<br><br>The document is a fax summary from the Judiciary lawyers to Conyers office with conclusions from the Congressional request. It is an internal memo posted by Conyers late Monday after the information was concluded that day. <br><br>The fax is dated and time-stamped Sept-12-2005 22:15 <br><br>Rawstory writes the article in the morning that the Results will be made available., and indicated what was found in that late evening memo.<br>Conyers statement is exactly as the article stated.<br><br><br><br><br><br>

"The document enumerates what she requested.<br>A very interesting list to say the least. For the lazy, busses and troops were not on the list."<br><br>From the CRS document you linked, the lawyers for the CRS concluded that Governor Blanco requested full evacuation assistance from the Federal government in addition to the activating the state plan. ref: CRS-5<br><br>The Federal government complies with this emergency request for evacuation assistance. The President authorized FEMA and HS to coordinate all disaster relief efforts. ref: CRS-6<br><br><br><br><br>Note: If you want to check Homeland Security's National Response Plan , http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/editorial/editorial_0566.xml, I bet it says something about Federal coordination of National Guard troops and evacuation assistance.<br><br><br><br><br><br>

No it doesn't.<br><br>Neither CRS-5 or CRS-6 says either of those things. Are you really reading the same document I am?<br><br>The only time the word "evacuating" (or a derivitive thereof) appears on CRS-5 is when the area of disaster is defined. Included in the definition is the parishes "accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expected to be flooded..."<br>The second and thrid time is this sentence:<br>"A State of Emergency (my note: this refers to the governor's issued state of emergency, not the federal declaration of emergency) has been issued for the State in order to support the evacuation of the costal area in accordance with our state evacuation plan..." <br><br>And again of CRS-6 the word evacuation is only mentioned when defining the disaster area as in (paraphrasing) "the disaster area includes parishes excepting the evacuees".<br><br>It is true it says FEMA can coordinate all disaster relief efforts but that doesn't mean they are required to or must take over the efforts. A big difference.<br><br>Seriously I don't see anywhere in that document where it says "Governor Blanco requested full evacuation assistance from the Federal government in addition to the activating the state plan. ref".<br><br>Again I'm not saying things didn't go wrong or slow but this document doesn't further that debate.<br><br>

CRS-5<br>Clearly states Emergency assistance requested for New Orleans.<br><br>Blanco's emergency request also included..."and supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives...""..specifically requested Federal assistance.." <br><br>CRS-6<br>The President authorized FEMA to coordinate...<br><br>I don't get it, the nonpartisan judiciary lawyers find that Blanco did things right in her requests for Federal assistance, and you still say she f*cked up. The question is whether Blanco did what was required of her, and the legal answer is yes. Fox and Mehlman and Rush can go on blaming Blanco regardless of this proof. I don't expect anything could be to be presented that may make you change your opinion.<br><br><br>FEMA screwed up. Blanco did what she was required to do, The President said the federal response was in adequate. Yesterday the president took responsibility for the Fed's failure to adequately respond. The Congressional Judiciary committee says Blanco did things right. <br><br><br>Is Blanco to blame for delayed FEMA response in Mississippi too?<br><br>to be continued.<br><br>

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<center><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Am I gonna have to separate you two?!<p><hr></blockquote><p></center><br>He says potato and she say potaeto,<br>she likes tomato and He likes tomaeto;<br>Potato, potaeto, tomato, tomaeto!<br><br>He says either and She says eyether,<br>He says neither and she says nyther;<br>Either, eyether, neether, nyther,<br>Lol they will be fine, they may be riding different trains but both are heading in the same direction. <br><br>

This document enumerates very specific things that were requested.<br>You seem to be under the impession that the way this whole thing works is that there is a general request for help and then FEMA just sends everything they got.<br><br>For good or bad that is not how it works and I think many are under that impession. The local goverment makes requests of the state and then the state makes requests of FEMA or other federal agencies. The delcarations of emergency on the federal and state level just legally releases these resources but doesn't give FEMA carte blanc to just start sending busses to the Superdome or troops into downtown New Orleans these things must be requested or alternatly the state signs a document saying basically "We give up, you do everything". Then FEMA takes over completely and no longer needs requests from the state. Otherwise FEMA is there to support the state effort.<br><br>Also I didn't say she screwed up the request. The request was fine but it wasn't for troops and busses. At least not the requests detailed in this document.<br><br>Saying "The Congressional Judiciary committee says Blanco did things right." is a most simplistic analysis of this complex issue.<br>Because all it really says is that the normal boilerplate requests the states make of the federal government in anticipation of a disaster were in order. No one really has disputed that fact.<br>The ongoing debate is how things were handled after the the hurricane had passed. And this document does not address the assistance that was needed for AFTER the storm haad passed.<br><br>Also the FEMA response was delayed in comparison to what, your personal feelings on how fast it should have been?<br><br>