drudge likely received an email from the aunt of cindy's son. i never questioned that. i merely stated that drudge is a rumormonger . . . a label he's earned.<br><br>EDIT: gary covered the rest and i pretty much duplicated it.<br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by sean on 08/12/05 01:03 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Sheehan is the mother, and mothers rule.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Unless you are the mother of Terri Schiavo?<br><br>I hope that talking and listening, brings Ms. Sheehan comfort. <br><br><br><br><br>got to let your eyes adjust

"And they too have a voice in what Cindy Sheehan has decided to make very, very public."<br><br>Why? She wants to ask the President to truthfully tell her what noble cause her son died for? She wants to ask the President to not use the death of her son to justify the continued fighting. She wants to ask him in person to end this war.<br><br>She has brought more honor and meaning to her son's sacrifice for country and the importance of 'love of family' than any other instance I can remember in two years and 1800 lives. Casey Sheehan served and died for reasons she feel have not been honest. This is a mothers' protest. She's not asking the President for answers for her in-laws, she's asking for herself.<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>You accept Drudge posting a email from "aunt and godmother" as meeting acceptable journalistic standards, I dont.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Well three snaps in a "Z" formation for you. You can always stamp your feet or hold your breath too. Uh, Ms. Johnson, please note that Gary doesn't find Drudge's journalistic standards up to snuff . . . .What's that? . . . Yes, I'm sure he knows about Jayson Blair at the New York Times . . . Yes, yes, I'm sure he knows about the many retractions they had to make . . . Just make a note of his displeasure with Drudge. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Sheehan is the mother, and mothers rule.<p><hr></blockquote><p>What are you talking about? What the hell does this mean, "mothers rule." <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Even if the aunt-in-law and godmother are not liking it.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I wonder if Casey Sheehan minimized his family to *just* an 'aunt-in-law' and godmother. You're also missing:<br><br><blockquote>Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.</blockquote><br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> The President even said today that this is America and Cindy Sheehan is free to say what she wants. <p><hr></blockquote><p>That's true. She does. More power to her. But Casey's other family members, since Cindy Sheehan has decided to make this so public, felt like they wanted to express their voice too. And they have. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>and a whole lot of people are listening. <p><hr></blockquote><p>Great! And now a whole lot of people have read Casey's family's email too. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Tomorrow's another day, and surely one more Drudge creation to get us talking<p><hr></blockquote><p>I'm sure if this were a fabrication, the liberal media will waste ZERO time in getting the 'aunt-in-law', godmother, grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins on the air. <br><br><br>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *<br>I [censored] bigger than you.<br>

casey wasn't married, thus the parent rules. it's quite simple in this case.<br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Why? She wants to ask the President to truthfully tell her what noble cause her son died for? She wants to ask the President to not use the death of her son to justify the continued fighting. She wants to ask him in person to end this war.<br><br>She has brought more honor and meaning to her son's sacrifice for country and the importance of 'love of family' than any other instance I can remember in two years and 1800 lives. Casey Sheehan served and died for reasons she feel have not been honest. This is a mothers' protest. She's not asking the President for answers for her in-laws, she's asking for herself.<p><hr></blockquote><p>And the President answered her today . . .<br><br><blockquote>THE PRESIDENT: I'm referring to any grieving mother or father, no matter what their political views may be. Part of my duty as the President is to meet with those who've lost a loved one. And so, you know, listen, I sympathize with Mrs. Sheehan. She feels strongly about her -- about her position. And I am -- she has every right in the world to say what she believes. This is America. She has a right to her position. And I've thought long and hard about her position. I've heard her position from others, which is, get out of Iraq now. And it would be -- it would be a mistake for the security of this country and the ability to lay the foundations for peace in the long-run, if we were to do so.</blockquote><br><br><br><br>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *<br>I [censored] bigger than you.<br>

Yes, mothers rule in their love and grief for their children. Mrs Schiavo is no exception, no matter what email her aunt-in-law and godmother may have written.<br><br><br><br>

the thing is gary, the in-laws have spoken out, but their story will go away. their love for bush created a small ripple, but sheehan's love for her son will create a much larger wave. the in-law story is something nice for drudge to promote and for conservatives to hang their hat on, but their story is small and nearly over. attention for cindy's cause is attention even if some of it comes with a negative slant. bush paid her attention today as well. the story grows larger with any and all attention and that's a good thing. <br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>casey wasn't married, thus the parent rules.<p><hr></blockquote><p>What are you people talking about? The "mother rules." The "parent rules." <br><br>Rules what? <br><br>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *<br>I [censored] bigger than you.<br>

"And the President answered her today . ." <br><br>No, the President read a prepared statement to the press today.<br><br><br><br>